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insidehoops 03-13-2013 07:35 AM

Unclear if D-Rose will play this season
 
Derrick Rose is still not sure he'll play this season, saying that at this point the obstacles are more mental than physical as he tries to return from knee surgery.
The Chicago Bulls' star guard told reporters before practice Tuesday in Los Angeles that he can "do everything."
"It's just me having the confidence to do it. I'm just trying to feel normal. When I'm out there and not thinking and just reacting, that's when I know I'll be ready."
He said he'll return when he feels "normal" and added: "If that's in a couple days, that's great. If it's not, I'm fine." Rose also said there's no cutoff date for him to return even though there are only 19 games remaining.

-- AP

ljsbb27 03-25-2013 10:42 PM

Re: Unclear if D-Rose will play this season
 
I want to see The Return this season.

With that said if he's not back by the 31st against Detroit I don't see him coming back.

He needs to get at least 10 or so games in before the playoffs start to get in some type of rhythm as well as play in some actual games.

tamaraw08 03-27-2013 01:07 AM

Re: Unclear if D-Rose will play this season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ljsbb27
I want to see The Return this season.

With that said if he's not back by the 31st against Detroit I don't see him coming back.

He needs to get at least 10 or so games in before the playoffs start to get in some type of rhythm as well as play in some actual games.


I just wish he would watch the tapes of Ricky Rubio's first 10-15 games, how awful he was and how he is playing much better now bec he has learned to cope and that the more games he plays the better he gets.
That older guys like Nash, Kidd, Andre Miller and even CP3 are not very athletic the past 4 years and YET they are still so effective for their respective teams.
Is it the question of him not "feeling and/or looking good" about himself and not feeling good that he can contribute whatever he can to help his team?:( out?

Crystallas 03-27-2013 12:58 PM

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I feel like a broken record, but here goes nothing(and to be fair, everyone sounds like a broken record on Rose speculation).

Simple explanation:
Rose 10 minutes before game 1 of the playoffs last season = 100% healthy.
Rose cleared by Doctors for LESS than a month =/= 100%.
Rose declared he wants to be 110%. Translation = stronger than he was, before he tore his ACL.
The human body doesn't build and condition joints and muscle at 10% per week.
If Rose is healthy, but not 100% now, and he wants to be 110% with the blessing and FULL support of the Bulls organization(the only thing that is 110%), FULL support of his teammates, and it takes about 3 weeks to improve conditioning by each step, then we're looking at mid-April(or just flat out shutting Derrick down for the season.)

Go Getter 03-27-2013 06:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystallas
I feel like a broken record, but here goes nothing(and to be fair, everyone sounds like a broken record on Rose speculation).

Simple explanation:
Rose 10 minutes before game 1 of the playoffs last season = 100% healthy.
Rose cleared by Doctors for LESS than a month =/= 100%.
Rose declared he wants to be 110%. Translation = stronger than he was, before he tore his ACL.
The human body doesn't build and condition joints and muscle at 10% per week.
If Rose is healthy, but not 100% now, and he wants to be 110% with the blessing and FULL support of the Bulls organization(the only thing that is 110%), FULL support of his teammates, and it takes about 3 weeks to improve conditioning by each step, then we're looking at mid-April(or just flat out shutting Derrick down for the season.)

I don't even think he was 100% at that point. He was dinged up all season and coming back as fast as he could from various nagging injuries iirc. I TOTALLY agree with your overall point though.

Crystallas 03-27-2013 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Go Getter
I don't even think he was 100% at that point. He was dinged up all season and coming back as fast as he could from various nagging injuries iirc. I TOTALLY agree with your overall point though.


I know, but I make this point because the natural comeback is just that(getting beat up throughout a season). It's a trap that I set to make these impatient kids think more. So if someone believes a player gets beat up during the season, you can't say they heal better by playing. Which one is it. :lol

Go Getter 03-27-2013 07:26 PM

Re: Unclear if D-Rose will play this season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystallas
I know, but I make this point because the natural comeback is just that(getting beat up throughout a season). It's a trap that I set to make these impatient kids think more. So if someone believes a player gets beat up during the season, you can't say they heal better by playing. Which one is it. :lol

Astute point man. I doubt ole boy gets it. He has officially melted down after putting all his hope into Rose coming back in Feb/March.

I want to see the team full strength too, but not until Rose is ready.

Gar and Pax have a lot of work to do this summer. I'm going to be watching very closely.

Rose 03-28-2013 03:34 PM

Re: Unclear if D-Rose will play this season
 
Crystallas.:applause: :applause:

Go Getter:applause:

VishaltotheG 03-28-2013 03:59 PM

Re: Unclear if D-Rose will play this season
 
I really wish Derrick could just straight up tell us what he wants to do, whether to come back this year or wait until next season. I'm sick of seeing facebook posts saying that he's coming back this game before every single game.

Crystallas 03-28-2013 04:20 PM

Re: Unclear if D-Rose will play this season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VishaltotheG
I really wish Derrick could just straight up tell us what he wants to do, whether to come back this year or wait until next season. I'm sick of seeing facebook posts saying that he's coming back this game before every single game.



But he can't. Have you ever had a serious injury? The Doctors can give you estimates, but did you know exactly when you would be back to your normal self? It's impossible.

VishaltotheG 03-28-2013 06:43 PM

Re: Unclear if D-Rose will play this season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystallas
But he can't. Have you ever had a serious injury? The Doctors can give you estimates, but did you know exactly when you would be back to your normal self? It's impossible.


He still should make a decision. I've had a fracture in my foot before and I immediately decided not to play any sports until it healed completely.

Crystallas 03-28-2013 07:07 PM

Re: Unclear if D-Rose will play this season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VishaltotheG
He still should make a decision. I've had a fracture in my foot before and I immediately decided not to play any sports until it healed completely.



He did though. He said 110%. Unfortunately, you don't know when that happens, he doesn't know, his Doctors don't know, the Psychic Hotline doesn't know.

tamaraw08 04-01-2013 04:01 PM

Re: Unclear if D-Rose will play this season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystallas
He did though. He said 110%. Unfortunately, you don't know when that happens, he doesn't know, his Doctors don't know, the Psychic Hotline doesn't know.

what the hell does he mean by 110%? do we really have to stoop to his level to understand that statement? name me any player who is at 100% right now? heck guys like Nash, CP3,deron Williams, jason Kidd etc etc cant even jump well the last 3 years

Go Getter 04-01-2013 04:10 PM

Re: Unclear if D-Rose will play this season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tamaraw08
what the hell does he mean by 110%? do we really have to stoop to his level to understand that statement? name me any player who is at 100% right now? heck guys like Nash, CP3,deron Williams, jason Kidd etc etc cant even jump well the last 3 years



Weren't you one of the genuises who wanted us to draft Beasley?

It doesn't matter what other players are doing. Our team and our system has us on par with the 2nd tier teams without Rose and an ailing Deng. We need Rose at optimum efficiency if we are to go anywhere within the forseeable future.

Dude has more guts than most of us....I played in the biggest HS arena in America aqnd it was scary as shit...these guys have a lot more heart than ome give them credit for.

Crystallas 04-01-2013 05:05 PM

Re: Unclear if D-Rose will play this season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tamaraw08
what the hell does he mean by 110%? do we really have to stoop to his level to understand that statement? name me any player who is at 100% right now? heck guys like Nash, CP3,deron Williams, jason Kidd etc etc cant even jump well the last 3 years



110% = conditioned his knees to be stronger than before, so they can take his style of play.

At least that is my best guess, and the only guess that makes any sense at this point.


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