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Rameek 05-24-2013 11:54 AM

Interesting Argument (Melo and Durant)
 
One of the few times First Take made a good debate with SS, Skip and Dahntay Jones.

You take Westbrook off of OKC and you put Melo or Durant there who is the better player or Melo or Durant?

They all said Melo which utterly shocked me. They said it without hesitation. I probably would have still said Durant because of his play making ability.

knickscity 05-24-2013 11:58 AM

Re: Interesting Argument (Melo and Durant)
 
Didn't see the show, what was there reasoning behind the choice?

Rameek 05-24-2013 01:01 PM

Re: Interesting Argument (Melo and Durant)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by knickscity
Didn't see the show, what was there reasoning behind the choice?

The premise was about the ALL NBA team and Melo being left off. They couldnt see taking off LBJ or Durant. But after what happened in the playoffs Durant kind of went a notch down. Then it became who is Melo's side kick compared to Durant's. So after they acknowledged Westbrook going down how Durant wasnt as great (which I disagree with) the argument can be made that Melo is a better scorer than Durant. THen they looked at how inefficient Durant was in comparison to with and without Westbrook. They said the numbers were close and that the 2 assist more for Durant can be offset by the 2 more rebounds that Melo gets during the regular season. So then they said based on those factors who would they take and it was a resounding Melo.

I do think Westbrook's aggressiveness helps Durant tremendously to help carry the load. I do think in the playoffs its hard to adjust Durant's game on the fly in the playoffs.

I dont know if Melo could still be the scorer he is with another all star caliber player because we havent seen it happen much. I have seen Melo let others get their rocks off instead of himself with Stat but never seen too many 25 pt games while Stat got 18 pt plus. I do think Melo can adjust his game for another player but I dont know if he can maintain his scoring ability within an offense that's based on ball movement and quick decisions.

If you look at the numbers though give me what Durant can do for the team over what Melo does all day everyday. He puts his teammates in position to be successful and he normally makes the right basketball play.

knickscity 05-24-2013 01:41 PM

Re: Interesting Argument (Melo and Durant)
 
Ok, wont agree with their view though.

How did they figure melo averaged more rebounds than Melo?

Durant almost 8 per game, and has more assists.

Something doesn't add up with that.

Rameek 05-24-2013 01:47 PM

Re: Interesting Argument (Melo and Durant)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by knickscity
Ok, wont agree with their view though.

How did they figure melo averaged more rebounds than Melo?

Durant almost 8 per game, and has more assists.

Something doesn't add up with that.

I didnt even catch that I thought maybe regular season but I know Durant put in the work all around. They might be using clutch stats :roll: :lol j/k

knickscity 05-24-2013 01:50 PM

Re: Interesting Argument (Melo and Durant)
 
I just caught that segment.....

i didn't hear what you posted, Rameek.

Dahntay basically said he's biased from being a teammate, but he stated Durant was better, but he'd take Melo due to knowing his game.

SAS basically said Melo is the better scorer, even though he stated KD is more efficient in such.

None were willing to take Lebron or Durant off 1st team to include melo, but if it were positionless, they'd take CP3 off and insert melo.

Rameek 05-24-2013 02:53 PM

Re: Interesting Argument (Melo and Durant)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by knickscity
I just caught that segment.....

i didn't hear what you posted, Rameek.

Dahntay basically said he's biased from being a teammate, but he stated Durant was better, but he'd take Melo due to knowing his game.

SAS basically said Melo is the better scorer, even though he stated KD is more efficient in such.

None were willing to take Lebron or Durant off 1st team to include melo, but if it were positionless, they'd take CP3 off and insert melo.

Did you watch/hear the whole segment?

knickscity 05-24-2013 03:38 PM

Re: Interesting Argument (Melo and Durant)
 
I caught the replay on tv.

Patrick Chewing 05-24-2013 04:35 PM

Re: Interesting Argument (Melo and Durant)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rameek
because of his play making ability.


And Melo doesn't have play making ability?. He's older and more experienced. Not too hard to believe why Melo would rank higher.

franchize 05-24-2013 06:03 PM

Re: Interesting Argument (Melo and Durant)
 
Durant is better than Melo. Not by much though.

airchibundo507 05-24-2013 08:05 PM

Re: Interesting Argument (Melo and Durant)
 
take away Durant's whistle and the two are very comparable scorers.

Durant is a better all-around player and Melo is a more varied scoring weapon.


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