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Inferno 06-23-2013 07:40 PM

Victor Oladipo or Ben McLemore?
 
Who would you take in this years draft? Who'll end up being the better player?

McLemore's combine interview (he really does seem nervous):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qddd80N1i3U

Oladipo's combine interview (seems confident):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3Oc5_rGNTo

PejaNowitzki 06-23-2013 08:33 PM

Re: Victor Oladipo or Ben McLemore?
 
Oladipo. Dat dere defense plus improving scoring ability. I don't see him being a huge star but a high quality contributor on a winning team with his ability to defend multiple positions, he's also improved as a shooter.

dbk123 06-23-2013 08:48 PM

Re: Victor Oladipo or Ben McLemore?
 
Mclemore for his shooting alone.

RedBlackAttack 06-23-2013 09:53 PM

Re: Victor Oladipo or Ben McLemore?
 
One thing people don't often talk about, but it could have a real impact...

Apparently, McLemore is absolutely horrible at interviewing. That's the word on the street. Look, there are plenty of very good/great athletes who aren't exactly rocket scientists, but when teams are choosing between two guys they have rated very closely, the little things can matter.

From what I'm hearing, he's historically bad at... talking to people.

Anyway, food for thought.

dbk123 06-23-2013 09:55 PM

Re: Victor Oladipo or Ben McLemore?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
One thing people don't often talk about, but it could have a real impact...

Apparently, McLemore is absolutely horrible at interviewing. That's the word on the street. Look, there are plenty of very good/great athletes who aren't exactly rocket scientists, but when teams are choosing between two guys they have rated very closely, the little things can matter.

From what I'm hearing, he's historically bad at... talking to people.

Anyway, food for thought.

right because derrick rose and mkg dont have the same problem..... what does talking with media have to do with on court play?

RedBlackAttack 06-23-2013 10:09 PM

Re: Victor Oladipo or Ben McLemore?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dbk123
right because derrick rose and mkg dont have the same problem..... what does talking with media have to do with on court play?

Not with the media. That's what is leaking about his visits with teams. His workouts have also not been really good, from what I've heard.

Like I said, it isn't something that will stop a great player from going high in the draft, but when two guys are considered neck-and-neck and teams start nit-picking to separate them, it may come into play.

Maybe it won't, but I'm just throwing it out there.

dbk123 06-23-2013 10:14 PM

Re: Victor Oladipo or Ben McLemore?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
Not with the media. That's what is leaking about his visits with teams. His workouts have also not been really good, from what I've heard.

Like I said, it isn't something that will stop a great player from going high in the draft, but when two guys are considered neck-and-neck and teams start nit-picking to separate them, it may come into play.

Maybe it won't, but I'm just throwing it out there.

oh my bad i thought you meant interviewing with media, not with teams.

Xiao Yao You 06-23-2013 10:49 PM

Re: Victor Oladipo or Ben McLemore?
 
Oladipo. He at least got in shape for the pre-draft workouts.

Inferno 06-24-2013 12:31 AM

Re: Victor Oladipo or Ben McLemore?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
Oladipo. He at least got in shape for the pre-draft workouts.


Yeah, I heard McLemore had some bad workouts with teams.

KeyNote 06-24-2013 12:59 AM

Re: Victor Oladipo or Ben McLemore?
 
Oladipo

qrich 06-24-2013 12:59 AM

Re: Victor Oladipo or Ben McLemore?
 
Archie Goodwin

Inferno 06-24-2013 01:01 AM

Re: Victor Oladipo or Ben McLemore?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KeyNote
Oladipo

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Kurosawa0 06-24-2013 01:23 AM

Re: Victor Oladipo or Ben McLemore?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
One thing people don't often talk about, but it could have a real impact...

Apparently, McLemore is absolutely horrible at interviewing. That's the word on the street. Look, there are plenty of very good/great athletes who aren't exactly rocket scientists, but when teams are choosing between two guys they have rated very closely, the little things can matter.

From what I'm hearing, he's historically bad at... talking to people.

Anyway, food for thought.


Yeah, I heard that too and didn't pay much attention to it, but then I watched Grantland's interview with him... Wow! Honestly felt like they were talking to a 12 year old.

RedBlackAttack 06-24-2013 01:30 AM

Re: Victor Oladipo or Ben McLemore?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurosawa0
Yeah, I heard that too and didn't pay much attention to it, but then I watched Grantland's interview with him... Wow! Honestly felt like they were talking to a 12 year old.

When things like that start leaking from multiple meetings with teams, you know it must be bad. It also doesn't help that he's allegedly been almost as bad on the basketball court in his team workouts.

Combine the interviews with teams leaking stuff like this?

Quote:

More than one expert has said McLemore’s stock has been dropping because of sub-par workouts for Cleveland, Orlando and Phoenix. ESPN’s Chad Ford and Sheridan Hoops’ Joe Kotoch, in fact, both have McLemore headed to the Suns at No. 5.

“His lack of preparation for the draft is hurting him,” Ford writes at ESPN.com. “Multiple sources told me that his workout in Phoenix was not impressive; he wasn’t in shape, and he struggled to keep up in the workout. I heard similar things in Orlando. McLemore is in a tug-of-war right now between adviser Rodney Blackstock and his agency, Rivals. It’s kept McLemore out of the gym and, for the most part, out of workouts. How much will all of this affect the draft stock? I’m told teams are worried. But how worried? Enough for one of the most talented players in the draft to slide further?”

Kotoch wrote: “McLemore’s troubles stem from his inner circle and poor conditioning. McLemore has not been impressive at workouts in Phoenix or Cleveland. One executive who watched McLemore said ‘Jamaal Franklin looked like a better prospect than him, and he’s still recovering from a sprained ankle.’”

One NBA front-office official — who also could not speak on the record in accordance with league rules — told the Journal-World that McLemore appeared “pudgy” at a recent workout and might be 10 pounds overweight.

“He was struggling after 15 minutes,” the official said. “He could slide down (Thursday). I hear no further than 7 to 10, but there’s a chance he could slide because of some of this stuff (including the inexperience of his first-year adviser, Blackstock).”

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2013/j...ays-nba-draft/


Not good.

TexasBloodMoney 06-24-2013 01:36 AM

Re: Victor Oladipo or Ben McLemore?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
“McLemore’s troubles stem from his inner circle and poor conditioning. McLemore has not been impressive at workouts in Phoenix or Cleveland. One executive who watched McLemore said ‘Jamaal Franklin looked like a better prospect than him, and he’s still recovering from a sprained ankle.’


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