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9erempiree 06-29-2013 04:40 PM

Miami Heat will string together a 4peat.....
 
I have no doubt in my mind that Miami will win 4 in a row because this is probably the weakest era in the NBA and they are loaded. I don't remember an era where players jump around from team to team. Superstars are joining each other which will lead to less competition from the bottom but the main factor?...There just isn't enough great players in today's league.

The top players in the league (no order):

Kobe
Durant
Lebron
CP3
Melo

With that said, this is a weak group besides Lebron and Kobe.. Durant is going to be with OKC for the duration of his career. Kobe too, for the Lakers. The rest of these guys have been jumping from ship to ship. Besides Lebron, any team rebuilding would not want the others. Even a team that needs to get over hump, they can say with honesty, that they don't want the remaining players mentioned.

If money was no object, there wouldn't be a team that could be assembled today to beat Miami.

Just too many recycled so-called superstars in this league and the decline of front court players.

Very weak era.

tikay0 06-29-2013 04:42 PM

Re: Miami Heat will string together a 4peat.....
 
Shooting, shooting, shooting. Teams with shooters, and a good team concept will give the Heat problems. Don't try and go the Heat route, by adding all the big names you can get.

Also big men.

longhornfan1234 06-29-2013 04:45 PM

Re: Miami Heat will string together a 4peat.....
 
If Kobe won another championship...would you be singing a different tune? :biggums:

9erempiree 06-29-2013 04:46 PM

Re: Miami Heat will string together a 4peat.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tikay0
Shooting, shooting, shooting. Teams with shooters, and a good team concept will give the Heat problems. Don't try and go the Heat route, by adding all the big names you can get.

Also big men.


The laws of diminishing returns to come into play since it's only 5 guys on the court at once and only one ball to go around.

3 stars players max, in my opinion, should be allowed before you don't get a return. Miami is borderline playing with fire with Bosh. He is a great player but his touches were even limited.

9erempiree 06-29-2013 04:48 PM

Re: Miami Heat will string together a 4peat.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longhornfan1234
If Kobe won another championship...would you be singing a different tune? :biggums:


If Kobe did wins another title, it would prove my point. He is 35 years of age and you can't do it all yourself when players are joining each other.

There's really no way for me to answer this without sounding bias.

tikay0 06-29-2013 04:50 PM

Re: Miami Heat will string together a 4peat.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 9erempiree
The laws of diminishing returns to come into play since it's only 5 guys on the court at once and only one ball to go around.

3 stars players max, in my opinion, should be allowed before you don't get a return. Miami is borderline playing with fire with Bosh. He is a great player but his touches were even limited.


You're not beating Miami's TEAM defense with individual stars. You need great BALL MOVEMENT, and shooters to space the floor and keep that team honest.

You'd be well served with a big man that can score in the paint as well.

The perfect team was the Spurs, but they CHOKED.

I'm glad my Bulls got 2 shooters in this draft. I think they got the memo. 3pt. shooting is a must in this new league.

P.S. On paper, you'd think the Thunder would push the Heat to the brink in the Finals. Problem is, the Thunder's team concept is ISO, ISO, ISO. Doesn't work against the Heat.

9erempiree 06-29-2013 04:53 PM

Re: Miami Heat will string together a 4peat.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tikay0
You're not beating Miami's TEAM defense with individual stars. You need great BALL MOVEMENT, and shooters to space the floor and keep that team honest.

You'd be well served with a big man that can score in the paint as well.

The perfect team was the Spurs, but they CHOKED.

I'm glad my Bulls got 2 shooters in this draft. I think they got the memo. 3pt. shooting is a must in this new league.


You are right with the 3 point shooting because this will space the floor more. At the same time you are asking your star player, Rose, to handle the ball more to get these guys' their shot.

Let's be honest, 3 point shooters are gimmick players. Look how limited Neal and Danny Green was when Miami's rotation was clicking. They were shut down.

tikay0 06-29-2013 04:56 PM

Re: Miami Heat will string together a 4peat.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 9erempiree
You are right with the 3 point shooting because this will space the floor more. At the same time you are asking your star player, Rose, to handle the ball more to get these guys' their shot.

Let's be honest, 3 point shooters are gimmick players. Look how limited Neal and Danny Green was when Miami's rotation was clicking. They were shut down.


But by shutting them down, you were opening up the paint for Duncan. Look at Duncan's numbers in game 6. The same game that Green was nowhere to be found.

And no, they're not gimmick players in today's league. Spacing is huge in today's league because of the zone. You need deadeye shooters to open the lane up for guys like Rose, Parker, etc.

tmacattack33 06-29-2013 04:56 PM

Re: Miami Heat will string together a 4peat.....
 
Nice.

Pre-emptive excuses.

OP is scared of Miami.

9erempiree 06-29-2013 04:59 PM

Re: Miami Heat will string together a 4peat.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tikay0
But by shutting them down, you were opening up the paint for Duncan. Look at Duncan's numbers in game 6. The same game that Green was nowhere to be found.


Compared to the Bulls, the Spurs are an exception because they have Duncan. I don't see anyone on the Bulls that can duplicate what Duncan did.

Not enough fire power to go around in today's league that will counter what Miami has going for them.

It's going to suck for awhile.

PJR 06-29-2013 05:01 PM

Re: Miami Heat will string together a 4peat.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tmacattack33
Nice.

Pre-emptive excuses.

OP is scared of Miami.


Pretty much.

tikay0 06-29-2013 05:01 PM

Re: Miami Heat will string together a 4peat.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 9erempiree
Compared to the Bulls, the Spurs are an exception because they have Duncan. I don't see anyone on the Bulls that can duplicate what Duncan did.

Not enough fire power to go around in today's league that will counter what Miami has going for them.

It's going to suck for awhile.


But the Bulls bring a different element that the Spurs don't have. Interior defense (Spurs have that), AND perimeter defense.

I feel like we had the perfect balance in the 11'-12' playoffs, but of course the ACL happened.

Bulls are the few teams that are ALWAYS gonna be competitive with the Heat because of our philosophy and coaching.

We just need the shooters to make it easier for us on the offensive side, and for Rose.

We're set. We just need the spark plug off the bench (Nate gone!), and 3pt. shooters.

20Four 06-29-2013 05:16 PM

Re: Miami Heat will string together a 4peat.....
 
Miami almost lost game 6....lol nuff said

asdf1990 06-29-2013 05:32 PM

Re: Miami Heat will string together a 4peat.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tikay0
But the Bulls bring a different element that the Spurs don't have. Interior defense (Spurs have that), AND perimeter defense.

I feel like we had the perfect balance in the 11'-12' playoffs, but of course the ACL happened.

Bulls are the few teams that are ALWAYS gonna be competitive with the Heat because of our philosophy and coaching.

We just need the shooters to make it easier for us on the offensive side, and for Rose.

We're set. We just need the spark plug off the bench (Nate gone!), and 3pt. shooters.


8-2 in the playoffs=competitive only on ISH

tikay0 06-29-2013 05:51 PM

Re: Miami Heat will string together a 4peat.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by asdf1990
8-2 in the playoffs=competitive only on ISH


Troll harder. I love it!


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