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crisoner 07-19-2013 02:54 AM

Mitch and company...where is the dee on this team??????
 
Simple question. Look at all the players the Lakers picked up.
High scoring no defense. We can at least use some defensive wings. Or a tough guy like K Mart.

lakerfreak 07-19-2013 03:45 AM

Re: Mitch and company...where is the dee on this team??????
 
Did you make this thread for the intention of living the konex curse, and thus pressuring the lakers to sign defensive guys? lol

In all seriousness, we all know this is a "preparation" year for the off-season of 2014. There's no point in spending extra money (that we don't have) on a year where have no hope. Dwight Howard left and we have no superstar. Kobe is not going to be the same star anymore.

Whatever the case may be, we are prepped for 2014. In the mean time we got some young guys that can run in D'Antoni's system. Then after we miss the playoffs we can fire D'Antoni, bring superstars, and get back to the laker way.

Lakers_Kobe_Fan 07-19-2013 12:28 PM

Re: Mitch and company...where is the dee on this team??????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crisoner
Simple question. Look at all the players the Lakers picked up.
High scoring no defense. We can at least use some defensive wings. Or a tough guy like K Mart.


Lets b honest here.... Nobody in their wildest dreams think they are anywhere closer to winning championship..

Heck even mitch/kobe will agree with that...

This is a stopgap year.... Before the real thing next summer...

So enjoy the ride... Have fun putting up 120pts but losing by 20....

Like lf said ...we then fire D'Toni, get back Phil and we go on FA hunting in the summer

How this sounds

Farmar
Kobe
Melo
Lebron
Pau

bench : With the players we have but with higher confidence cause of next yr or just recycle couple

dd24 07-19-2013 07:50 PM

Re: Mitch and company...where is the dee on this team??????
 
Do you guys really believe things will change around next summer? I don't think it's a certainty that Lebron or Melo sign here. It's really even more of a long shot. Paul George will likely sign a max contract with Indiana. Outside of that it's not guys who can be a #2 option to make a run to a championship who will be FA's. Wade, Amare, Deng, Bosh, Bogut..... good players but not enough to make the Lakers relevant in the championship discussion again. So while I agree it's not the smartest thing to sign a bunch of contracts this offseason so there's money to spend next year, I don't agree with people thinking it could be completely turned around in a year. The new CBA hurts the Lakers. David Stern really really really hurt the Lakers.

SpecialQue 07-20-2013 12:50 AM

Re: Mitch and company...where is the dee on this team??????
 
I'm guessing the lack of D is because they're focusing on high shooting/scoring to keep games entertaining, even though they're not going to do shit in the playoffs when they get there. They still have to sell tickets.

Torious 07-20-2013 12:18 PM

Re: Mitch and company...where is the dee on this team??????
 
I don't really think there's much to be gained in the '14 FA market. Wade will stay put at age 32, if LBJ opts out it will be to get a better contract from Miami. Why would he go anywhere else when he has Wade and Bosh there and solid vets are lining up to jump on the Championship bandwagon for practically no money.

Dont really see Melo and Amar'e opt out either.

So that leaves a couple of aging Superstars who are too loyal to leave their team (Duncan, Dirk). They'd also be useless to build a new Team around due to their age. The better ones of the (unrestricted) rest are a bunch of borderline All Stars like Zach, Granger and Deng who won't really make the Lakers a contender either.


The only way I see them go anywhere in the next couple of year is with trades or if they develop some real team chemistry like in... say.. San Antonio. Which hasn't happened in LA for some time now.

Alter Ego 07-20-2013 02:15 PM

Re: Mitch and company...where is the dee on this team??????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Torious
I don't really think there's much to be gained in the '14 FA market. Wade will stay put at age 32, if LBJ opts out it will be to get a better contract from Miami. Why would he go anywhere else when he has Wade and Bosh there and solid vets are lining up to jump on the Championship bandwagon for practically no money.

Dont really see Melo and Amar'e opt out either.

So that leaves a couple of aging Superstars who are too loyal to leave their team (Duncan, Dirk). They'd also be useless to build a new Team around due to their age. The better ones of the (unrestricted) rest are a bunch of borderline All Stars like Zach, Granger and Deng who won't really make the Lakers a contender either.


The only way I see them go anywhere in the next couple of year is with trades or if they develop some real team chemistry like in... say.. San Antonio. Which hasn't happened in LA for some time now.



Actually, we can go and try and grab Kyrie Irving, Lillard, or Paul George, Danny granger, Melo or Lebron and even LMA(not sure about this one)

tamaraw08 07-20-2013 03:59 PM

Re: Mitch and company...where is the dee on this team??????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alter Ego
Actually, we can go and try and grab Kyrie Irving, Lillard, or Paul George, Danny granger, Melo or Lebron and even LMA(not sure about this one)


What the heck happened to the loud rumor before about them getting Kevin Love?

dd24 07-20-2013 04:31 PM

Re: Mitch and company...where is the dee on this team??????
 
I don't really see Love or Irving leaving their teams. Irving would be a guy you can actually build around. Love I see as a #2 or #3 option on a championship team. The Cavs have a really nice young team though. I'm not sure why Kyrie would necessarily want to go and I don't think the Cavs would just let him walk that easily anyhow. Paul George is the guy that I think has the highest percentage to go somewhere else, but I don't really think that's going to happen either. With the way the salary cap is now setup, rebuilding through the draft is really the best way to do it. It's not like it was back in the day where you could just go out and sign the best talent and not worry too much about a luxury tax. That's why I'm a bit worried about this rebuild.

Alter Ego 07-20-2013 06:19 PM

Re: Mitch and company...where is the dee on this team??????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tamaraw08
What the heck happened to the loud rumor before about them getting Kevin Love?


Idk. I'm an LA GUY, love the lakers but James Harden is my guy. I knew him growing up. He's from LA. I wish lakers would have grabbed him.
Lakers need to retool and picking up all these old dudes ain't cutting it

Mgamer20o0 07-20-2013 11:47 PM

Re: Mitch and company...where is the dee on this team??????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alter Ego
Idk. I'm an LA GUY, love the lakers but James Harden is my guy. I knew him growing up. He's from LA. I wish lakers would have grabbed him.
Lakers need to retool and picking up all these old dudes ain't cutting it

its just for this season though. they are so limited to what they can do right now there isnt many moves to make until they get back under the cap.

easy to say we should have got this guy or that but we need what the other team is looking for.

DKLaker 07-21-2013 12:40 AM

Re: Mitch and company...where is the dee on this team??????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dd24
Do you guys really believe things will change around next summer? I don't think it's a certainty that Lebron or Melo sign here. It's really even more of a long shot. Paul George will likely sign a max contract with Indiana. Outside of that it's not guys who can be a #2 option to make a run to a championship who will be FA's. Wade, Amare, Deng, Bosh, Bogut..... good players but not enough to make the Lakers relevant in the championship discussion again. So while I agree it's not the smartest thing to sign a bunch of contracts this offseason so there's money to spend next year, I don't agree with people thinking it could be completely turned around in a year. The new CBA hurts the Lakers. David Stern really really really hurt the Lakers.


You are completely right. A quick fix is not going to happen.

$LakerGold 07-21-2013 10:57 AM

Re: Mitch and company...where is the dee on this team??????
 
Both Melo & Amare knows that they've have a better chance winning a title with Kobe in LA than in NY. Knowing what Mitch can do, gawd it's gonna be a deep roster.

bladefd 07-21-2013 03:48 PM

Re: Mitch and company...where is the dee on this team??????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alter Ego
Actually, we can go and try and grab Kyrie Irving, Lillard, or Paul George, Danny granger, Melo or Lebron and even LMA(not sure about this one)


I don't think Lillard is a possibility. Blazers will hold onto him and match any offer that comes his way (its a team option so Blazers not letting him go). I don't see LeBron opting out, especially if they make it to finals again. George will get max deal in Indy and extra year so he isn't leaving that. LMA is under contract for 2 more years so only way to acquire him is to trade for him; we do not have the pieces they would want outside of Gasol's expiring contract. I don't know if Portland wants to clear any salary space..

As for Irving/George, dd24 already explained everything I was going to say.

That leaves Granger & Melo (& Deng who you didn't mention). Granger & Deng will be unrestricted FAs so I think Lakers should try to acquire one of them; I hope it's Deng. As for Melo, I think he is definitely a possibility because I expect him to opt out. Knicks will stay the Knicks.. Losing playoff series after playoffs. Only thing is I don't know if we want Melo. He has not had any playoff success in 9 years ;/

MJ(Mean John) 07-21-2013 07:01 PM

Re: Mitch and company...where is the dee on this team??????
 
You guys know what I'm thinking.


Lamar Odom!


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