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tgan3 09-05-2013 04:23 AM

Clippers might actually fail again?
 
I know about their new acquisitions of JJ Redick and Jared Dudley who are both amazing shooters.

But, a few reasons why i think clippers will fail ultimately at the playoffs again.

First, Deandre Jordan and Blake Griffin rebounding numbers aren't really high at 7.2 rpg and 8.3 rpg apiece. You imagine they rebound better with their athleticism but no. Jordan is tied at 20th in the league for offensive rebounding while Griffin in 29th so they aren't exactly good offensive rebounders, something that you need when your team is collectively based on outside shooting (With the addition of so many outside shooters)

Yes, Redick and Dudley may open up some possibilities for CP3, but Jordan can forget about developing a shot since his FT% is below 50, he only plays in the paint and has no post game whatsoever. Griffin is a little better but still no one would respect his 15 foot shot so both of them would crowd the paint, preventing CP3 from doing drive and dishes, and limit their offensive capabilities.

Defense wise Bledsoe and Butler > Redick and Dudley.

My bet 2nd round exit again!

Electric Slide 09-05-2013 04:30 AM

Re: Clippers might actually fail again?
 
lol at butler being better than dudley.

Redick and Dudley are huge upgrades over Billups and Butler.

Bledsoe was their only big loss but he hardly played anyways.

Rose'sACL 09-05-2013 04:37 AM

Re: Clippers might actually fail again?
 
Clippers are number 2 on my list of teams who could win west with Spurs at number 1.

mugiwara 09-05-2013 05:05 AM

Re: Clippers might actually fail again?
 
Warriors will be better.

All Net 09-05-2013 05:09 AM

Re: Clippers might actually fail again?
 
Could they fail? Sure but so could thunder and spurs

Thunder
Spurs
Clippers

Are the main 3 contenders rights now to win the west for me. Houston we need to see them how they play.

qrich 09-05-2013 05:09 AM

Re: Clippers might actually fail again?
 
So much wrong with this post.

tgan3 09-05-2013 05:27 AM

Re: Clippers might actually fail again?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qrich
So much wrong with this post.


you believe losing Butler, Bledsoe and Billups over Dudley and Redick is actually an improvement?

:roll: :roll:

Don't read what the media feeds you. This team will fail again! Im a CP3 fan but trust me, this team just doesn't cut it.

All Net 09-05-2013 05:41 AM

Re: Clippers might actually fail again?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tgan3
you believe losing Butler, Bledsoe and Billups over Dudley and Redick is actually an improvement?

:roll: :roll:

Don't read what the media feeds you. This team will fail again! Im a CP3 fan but trust me, this team just doesn't cut it.


Yeah it clearly is a big improvement.

Butler and Billups did nothing last season. You are the only one who thinks it isn't. They clearly improved.

qrich 09-05-2013 05:41 AM

Re: Clippers might actually fail again?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tgan3
you believe losing Butler, Bledsoe and Billups over Dudley and Redick is actually an improvement?

:roll: :roll:

Don't read what the media feeds you. This team will fail again! Im a CP3 fan but trust me, this team just doesn't cut it.


You are really mentioning Billups? Really? The guy was mediocre when he actually got on the court. Especially in the playoffs. Butler was decent, at best. Had a few good to great games, but mediocre more often than not.

Losing Bledsoe does hurt, when it comes to one side of the ball, but Collison is much better on the other end.

The Clippers didn't fill the need I wanted, but now they gave their bench an identity, which is to score, score and score.

You are also forgetting the additions of Darren Collison, Byron Mullens, Brandon Davies and Antawn Jamison. Oh yeah, and Doc Rivers.

TheReturn 09-05-2013 06:25 AM

Re: Clippers might actually fail again?
 
I agree with the OP saying that they won't go far until Griffin and DJ improve several aspects of their game.

Nash 09-05-2013 06:45 AM

Re: Clippers might actually fail again?
 
I don't get the Clippers hype too. First of all, if you're lead by a 6 foot player you will have a hard time against teams lead by Lebron and Durant.

Also, since when does acquiring Dudley and Reddick all of a sudden make you this favorite in the West?

All Net 09-05-2013 06:51 AM

Re: Clippers might actually fail again?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nash
I don't get the Clippers hype too. First of all, if you're lead by a 6 foot player you will have a hard time against teams lead by Lebron and Durant.

Also, since when does acquiring Dudley and Reddick all of a sudden make you this favorite in the West?


Role players can sometimes make a huge difference. .

Nash 09-05-2013 06:54 AM

Re: Clippers might actually fail again?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by All Net
Role players can sometimes make a huge difference. .

But not when your only legit star is CP3 and you're still waiting for Blake to become a real game changer.

All Net 09-05-2013 07:16 AM

Re: Clippers might actually fail again?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nash
But not when your only legit star is CP3 and you're still waiting for Blake to become a real game changer.


They certainly have question marks but they are in the mix. Have to see what doc can do with them defensively. As that's their weakness.

Unforgiven 09-05-2013 09:29 AM

Re: Clippers might actually fail again?
 
Sure Dudley and Reddick help a lot, but I think the fate of the clips lies with DJ and Blake.

If they can improve their rounding, DJ his offence and Blake his defence, it'll go a long way. Then there are free throws...


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