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Anti Hero 11-15-2013 09:19 PM

Ryan McDonough: 'It's an insult' to think we can't have success outside the lottery
 


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Tuesday night's Champions Classic doubleheader in Chicago showcased a who's who of college basketball's finest programs -- Duke, Kansas, Kentucky and Michigan State -- and in the process made several NBA general managers salivate at the potential talent that could be filling up the top of the draft board come June 2014.
Duke small forward Jabari Parker showed off his smooth touch (27 points on 9-of-18 shooting) and versatility (nine rebounds). Kansas shooting guard Andrew Wiggins illustrated his rare athleticism an ability to finish in transition (22 points and 10 rebounds). And Kentucky power forward Julius Randle proved that with a little seasoning and experience, he has a terrific chance of being a physical terror (27 points and 13 rebounds) at the next level.

It was only one night, but the freshmen trio did nothing but enhance their value as they make what will likely be a collective leap into the professional ranks at season's end.

This summer, it seemed like a far gone conclusion that all three would be on the Suns' radar given the team's public acknowledgement that the 2013-14 season would represent the first stage in a necessary rebuilding project.

The organization hired a new head coach, a new general manager, several new assistant coaches and parted ways with several talented assets -- Caron Butler, Jared Dudley, Luis Scola and Marcin Gortat -- with an eye towards igniting the future.

But through the first eight games, however, the future might be just a little bit closer for the Suns than they had initially expected.

Talks of tanking have been pushed aside in the wake of the team's unexpected 5-3 start, and the idea of having as many as four selections in the upcoming draft doesn't seem as appealing if players like Parker, Randle and Wiggins aren't still there for the taking.

Suns general manager Ryan McDonough took in the college basketball showcase at the United Center Tuesday night. And while he did admit that he came away from the doubleheader quite impressed with the quality of play overall, McDonough said Phoenix can still prosper in June's draft even if it finds itself outside the top 5.

"One of the reasons I'm here and one of the reasons we had great success in Boston was because of our success outside of the lottery," McDonough told Arizona Sports 620's Burns and Gambo. "Is it easier to be picking in the top 5? Sure. But in some ways it's an insult to myself and my staff to think we can't [have success in the draft] without a top 5 pick, that we can't have success outside of the lottery.

"If we do make the playoffs and are picking outside of the lottery, then that means our young players are pretty good. We have one of the youngest rosters, certainly one of the youngest rotations in the league. If Eric Bledsoe, Miles Plumlee, the Morris twins, Archie Goodwin and hopefully we get Alex Len back soon, if those guys all play well then that's great. I'd rather take my chances with those five or six guys going forward than putting all my eggs in one basket hoping one guy in the lottery is really good."

While the upcoming draft will unquestionably be stacked at the top, McDonough noted that quality players will likely be available regardless of the spot teams are picking from.

"This draft, I mean obviously we won't know until May exactly who's in it as far as which underclassmen are coming out, the depth is impressive," said McDonough. "That's one of the reasons we wanted to stockpile as many picks as we possibly could. Now, we have potentially four in the first round.

"There won't just be two, three, four or however many good players in this draft. And the other thing I want to say is that it's not always a linear progression. There's been no draft in NBA history where the first pick is the best player, the second pick is the second best player and so on. It doesn't work that way and it never has. If you go back and look at pretty much every drafts, there have are good players taken outside the top 5, outside the top 10 and a lot of the time and most of the time out of the lottery."

The NBA season hasn't even reached December yet, so it's frivolous to speculate where the Suns will land -- be it in the playoffs, the lottery or the top 5. With that said, it appears at the very least like McDonough has a plan regardless of which outcome eventually plays out.

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livingby3's 11-16-2013 12:21 PM

Re: Ryan McDonough: 'It's an insult' to think we can't have success outside the lottery
 
Giving his young players confidence and making them feel good. If the Suns cant keep up and head into the lottery, good for him. If the Suns sneak into the playoffs and turns out hungry, good for him too. Good comment on his part, earning his players' and scouting staffs' trust

highwhey 11-16-2013 06:22 PM

Re: Ryan McDonough: 'It's an insult' to think we can't have success outside the lottery
 
I like his confidence even though that's his job, similar to how a teacher will attempt to instill confidence in students.

I know we have Plumlee and are awaiting Omeka as well as Len, but Omer Asik is on the trading block. Remember the success (albeit shortlived bc if injuries) of Lakers when they ran the Pau/Bynum twintower duo? Plumlee is very athletic and as a result, more mobile than other traditional "stiff" centers. I can see him at the PF position.

Anti Hero 11-18-2013 10:10 PM

Re: Ryan McDonough: 'It's an insult' to think we can't have success outside the lottery
 
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Originally Posted by highwhey
I like his confidence even though that's his job, similar to how a teacher will attempt to instill confidence in students.

I know we have Plumlee and are awaiting Omeka as well as Len, but Omer Asik is on the trading block. Remember the success (albeit shortlived bc if injuries) of Lakers when they ran the Pau/Bynum twintower duo? Plumlee is very athletic and as a result, more mobile than other traditional "stiff" centers. I can see him at the PF position.

Yahoo FBBall has him listed as a C.

What would you do with Kieff though, are you ready to give up on him?

highwhey 11-26-2013 02:19 PM

Re: Ryan McDonough: 'It's an insult' to think we can't have success outside the lottery
 
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Originally Posted by Anti Hero
Yahoo FBBall has him listed as a C.

What would you do with Kieff though, are you ready to give up on him?

I like kieff, starting to develop a more solid role. He can create his own shot which is good but he plays small. As it is, our line up is too small, we got abused on some plays by birdman last night because he wasnt defending well, that and birdman made it look like a mismatch. On second thought, Omer asik is too stiff or slow for our team though.

We need to rebound much better. Also, yall watch the 4th quarter last night? It was like suns were playing pick up ball, lack of chemistry...everyone was just trying to hit a 3 instead of running plays. Turnovers, no boards, atrocious offense...hey coach, where you at??? :biggums:

Maniak 11-27-2013 07:55 PM

Re: Ryan McDonough: 'It's an insult' to think we can't have success outside the lottery
 
I too have noticed countless possessions where the suns are playing Iso and not really moving the ball at all or running anything. All part of a young team and coach. Morris brothers can be terrible for this.


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