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Unregistered 06-29-2006 12:14 AM

Who had the best draft?
 
Personall, I think both the Nets and the Suns had good drafts, especially the Nets. They got a steal in Marcus Williams, and a perfect fit for their high speed system in Boone. Marcus Williams will be the perfect understudy to Kidd, and perhaps Josh Boone can fill the role that Kenyon Martin once played for this team when they made it to the finals a couple of years in a row. I think the Nets are back, baby! I don't think they are going to make it to the finals, but they will be fun to watch, and will certainly be an elite team in the East.

I love the acquisition of Rajon Rondo and Sergio Rodriguez for the Suns. I figure at least one of these Armstrong and Cedric Simmons? If they acquire a solid 2-guard in the offseason they are definitely a playoff team next year.

BRoyHOF 06-29-2006 12:17 AM

New Orleans got exactly what they needed. Big men and athleticism with Simmons and Armstrong

d_white089 06-29-2006 12:32 AM

Although they took a very strange route to get there, I think the Blazers had a pretty good draft..Aldridge and Roy could be 2 of the best outta this draft and Rodriguez shouldn't be bad either..

My top team for this draft though is the Memphis Grizzlies..to get a guy with so much potential like Rudy Gay at #8 is great..and Lowry will be able to come in and contribute right away

Cavs got two steals with Shannon Brown and Daniel Gibson..

The two teams with the worst draft were the Knicks and Celtics..the tics coulda had a great player in Randy Foye unless this helps them get Iverson I don't understand it...

By the way..neither Rondo or Rodriguez are actually going to be a Sun..

BRoyHOF 06-29-2006 12:35 AM

One thing bad about the Blazers draft though is they couldve had Aldridge at 4

defmut 06-29-2006 12:45 AM

Da Bulls did good in picking/getting Tyrus Thomas and Thabo Sefolosha. They got two athletic players.

lowblok 06-29-2006 01:05 AM

The Jazz ending up with Dee Brown could be a big steal.

huppcap 07-06-2006 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Personall, I think both the Nets and the Suns had good drafts, especially the Nets. They got a steal in Marcus Williams, and a perfect fit for their high speed system in Boone. Marcus Williams will be the perfect understudy to Kidd, and perhaps Josh Boone can fill the role that Kenyon Martin once played for this team when they made it to the finals a couple of years in a row. I think the Nets are back, baby! I don't think they are going to make it to the finals, but they will be fun to watch, and will certainly be an elite team in the East.

I love the acquisition of Rajon Rondo and Sergio Rodriguez for the Suns. I figure at least one of these Armstrong and Cedric Simmons? If they acquire a solid 2-guard in the offseason they are definitely a playoff team next year.



Where were you?

The Suns got rid of their picks for cash!!

marny_navis 07-16-2006 09:47 PM

In no particular order:

Suns: Nobody that they liked was available, so traded for cash. Got Brian Grant's contract paid off, which is a blessing, and also got a conditional top 10 protected Boston 1st round pick, which will come next year as Sebastian Telfair will lead them to the playoffs along with Al Jefferson. I don't remember what they got for Rodriguez, I think a future pick or something someone help me out on that one. I think it was for cash though.

Celtics: They got Telfair, who will do better than any of the other PG's in the draft for Boston. With #21 they got him a backup in Rajon Rondo.

Cavs: Daniel Gibson and Shannon Brown give LeBron scorers to play with, and make up for the loss of Flip Murray.

Bulls: T-Time will be a solid shot blocker. Sefolosha gives quality athleticism on the perimeter that you don't get from any other players on their roster.

Trailblazers: Freeland and Sergio Rodriquez were bad picks, period. Brandon Roy will be able to hold the team together, and LaMarcus Aldridge will be a good sidekick. They just got played with by the Bulls at #2 and the Wolves at #6. They had to give up Viktor Khryapa to the Bulls for Aldridge, but it didn't hurt them badly. I personally think they should have offered the #30 instead, since Khryapa brings more to the table for Portland. It was a rough draft, but considering they still got the players they wanted and didn't have too much to give up, I think their draft went alright.

Nets: Williams gives PG for future, Boone solid defense and rebounding.

T'Wolves: Got new franchise player in Foye, as Garnett appears to be out.

Grizzlies: Star in Gay, solid PG in Lowry.

Warriors: Patrick O'Bryant could be the last center they need to draft.

Magic: JJ stretches out defense.

Hornets: Hilton Armstrong the next Dale Davis, Cedric Simmons provides solid contribution off the bench for David West.

76ers: Carney/Iguodala win every 2man dunk contest.

Kings: Douby the next Cuttino Mobley, top 3 shooters in draft.

Knicks: Balkman, Collins look good and will make the perimeter defense one of the best in the league. Balkman=Bruce Bowen, Collins=Derek Anderson.

Lakers: My team; Farmar a good pick here. We never have many great drafts, but here we get a solid PG for the triangle offense.

Mavs: Maurice Ager maybe biggest steal, helps make up for loss of Michael Finley, Marquis Daniels. Possibly final piece of puzzle; can defend, jump, shoot, and score.


Best Draft Overall: Knicks. Balkman went too high, but Isiah is making the right move and is starting to build a contender. Defense is greatly upgraded here.

Runner up: Hornets. Armstrong the anchor of the defense, Simmons will give you some more inside scoring. Also with Peja and Tyson Chandler, New Orleans has a nice combo of inside and outside scoring.

Last Word: Overall a good draft with teams filling needs, getting alot of specialist players like JJ Redick and Quincey Douby, Hilton Armstrong and Renaldo Balkman. Most teams had good picks, even if they were picked on by teams at the #2 and #6 position whom I will not name.

disco 07-19-2006 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by marny_navis
In no particular order:

Best Draft Overall: Knicks. Balkman went too high, but Isiah is making the right move and is starting to build a contender. Defense is greatly upgraded here.



You are joking, right? I actually like Balkman and I like Collins too, but they are not 1st round talent. If he was desperate to get those two he could Isiah could have at least made some trades and get them with the lower picks. This way he could have gor rid of some of the ridiculous comtracts or added a player or two that he needs. I think Collins my have slipped to around 40s if Knicks hadn't picked him, and Balkman would have been a mid second rounder, at best.

I liked what Chicago did. It is a matter of taste who you consider a better prospect Aldridge or Thomas, but the way Bulls got him demonstrated they have some brains in the front office. Instead of picking him at two, they managed to: a) reduce the salary they have to pay him salary slightly, b) acquire Khryapa, who is still young and promising, and doesn't cost them much, c) made Blzers look really stupid. There's no way Charlotte would have drafted Aldridge. Bulls also managed to get Sefolosha who will definitely fit their team well.

Messed the Cut 07-20-2006 10:09 AM

Because this draft class was pretty weak, it appears that almost all the teams came away with something. I think Phoenix was smart to get rid of picks in this draft and focused on rebuilding their team via free agency, same for San Antonio (why do I get the feeling Duncan goes down with a catastrpohic injury, Spurs become a non-playoff team and land Oden....seems familar....). Miami was equally as smart by not trying to go into this draft and look for players that would not contribute at all.

The Knicks. What motivation would Isaiah have to actually care about this draft knowing he has a 1 year lease on his coaching life with the following lineup:

Stephon Marbury
Steve Francis
Jalen Rose
Channing Frye
Eddy Curry

Bench: Jerome James (haha), Jamal Crawford, Nate Robiunson, David Lee, Renaldo Balkman, Mardy Collins

This group, if it stays together, will not win more than 35 games. New York is a joke.

marny_navis 07-20-2006 09:39 PM

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You are joking, right? I actually like Balkman and I like Collins too, but they are not 1st round talent. If he was desperate to get those two he could Isiah could have at least made some trades and get them with the lower picks. This way he could have gor rid of some of the ridiculous comtracts or added a player or two that he needs. I think Collins my have slipped to around 40s if Knicks hadn't picked him, and Balkman would have been a mid second rounder, at best.


I already said that:

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Best Draft Overall: Knicks. Balkman went too high, but Isiah is making the right move and is starting to build a contender. Defense is greatly upgraded here.

I stand by Mardy Collins. You've gotta be joking saying he's NOT a first round talent. The only thing I would correct is skipping Marcus Williams. Otherwise I stand by my words. You've gotta think outside of the box when dissing their picks. If they were taken farther back, would you like their selections? Mardy slipping to 29 was one of the biggest steals in the draft. You have to look at what they will be like as a team. They may not have gotten All-Stars, but they got guys that will help them win some games, they are solid role players that will help them in the future. No picks should be yelled at, because this is a draft of role players, and Isiah Thomas got his. He is building a contender, he's just got to get rid of his big contracts. Don't dis the picks until they are proven to be bad during the season. If Balkman and Collins don't make any impact whatsoever on the Knicks, then you can dis me and the picks. But not now when they haven't even set foot in an NBA game. Ben Wallace and Bruce Bowen both went undrafted, and now Balkman does get drafted. If you could do their drafts all over again, would you put them in the late first round? Yeah, you probably would and if not you should. Balkman just so happened to get drafted, and now you are going to dis him? Doesn't make any sense. Washington took Pecherov, but I don't see you dissing him yet. Same as Shawne Williams. What about Joel Freeland? 3 of the worst picks in the draft, and you choose to single out the best defensive player over two a couple of guys that won't do anything in the NBA, and you won't talk about why Shawne Williams entered the draft too early. You would rather talk about the guy who all the "experts" didn't like on draft night. Look outside the lines and see what both will do for their teams regardless of where they were drafted. Then you will understand why I like both picks.

disco 07-22-2006 11:05 AM

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Of course it is a matter of taste, and we won't find out who is right until the season is under way, but I think Collins shouldn't have been a first rounder. He was in most most mocks in the range 16-28, heck even in lottery sometimes, but I think that evaluation was simply wrong. I liked hima lot as a college player, but I am afraid he might find it difficult to succeed in the nba.

Also, if you really wanted Balkman, ehy the hell he didn't want to get more with that pick. Via trade he would have got another player and saved some money in Balkman's salary.

I think this 'isiah thomas knows his drafting thing' jas also got out of hand. Frye was an ok pick at six, not more than that. Nate Robinson was drafted just about where he was supposed to, but getting him via trade was not a genius move. I think picking Stoudamire for Raptors was definitely his best draft move so far, and after that he has done ok, but nothing really special.

In terms of Zeke building a contender, yes the Knicks are probably going to improve as it is only way to go from where they are now. He did ok in Indiana, so I won;t judge him yet. But if he is not able to get the team that plays in the city all players want to go to, and seems to have more money to spend than anyone else, to the playoffs in 2 years, it hasn't been good job.

Marky418 08-06-2006 08:33 PM

Bulls

HaNdLe ThE RoCk 08-06-2006 11:12 PM

knickz

04mzwach 08-07-2006 02:12 AM

-laughs at the knicks-


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