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hateraid 03-10-2007 10:26 PM

Better floor leader: Jordan or Magic?
 
If I had to choose a person who is the best on court leader, these two would get my vote. Although I'd see Magic as a better floor general and playmaker, I see Jordan as the more vocal leader.
Who in your opinion is the better fon court leader? (keep in mind, this is not a debate about the better player, in which I'd say Magic)

Ianou 03-10-2007 10:27 PM

Re: Better floor leader: Jordan or Magic?
 
Johnson no contest. His airness did it all himself so he did not lead the floor, he slashed to the basket almost every possesion.

DreamRockets 03-10-2007 10:28 PM

Re: Better floor leader: Jordan or Magic?
 
magic, doesn't make him better than jordan though.

Xsatyr 03-10-2007 10:31 PM

Re: Better floor leader: Jordan or Magic?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianou
Johnson no contest. His airness did it all himself so he did not lead the floor, he slashed to the basket almost every possesion.


Who?

Ianou 03-10-2007 10:33 PM

Re: Better floor leader: Jordan or Magic?
 
Magic as in Earvin Magic Johnson...

hateraid 03-10-2007 10:34 PM

Re: Better floor leader: Jordan or Magic?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianou
Johnson no contest. His airness did it all himself so he did not lead the floor, he slashed to the basket almost every possesion.


Not so fast. Jordan did alot vocally to tell his teammates where to be and when on the floor. He pushed his players do go all out. I don't see another player with that much presence.

Ianou 03-10-2007 10:35 PM

Re: Better floor leader: Jordan or Magic?
 
Magic didn't need to talk. It was all about heads up b-ball and eye contact.

Indian guy 03-10-2007 10:42 PM

Re: Better floor leader: Jordan or Magic?
 
Doesn't make him a better player, but Magic easily.

Xsatyr 03-10-2007 10:48 PM

Re: Better floor leader: Jordan or Magic?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianou
Magic as in Earvin Magic Johnson...


My mistake I misread your post. I thought you meant to say Jordan bc I thought you called Johnson his airness. But you picked Johnson and the other sentence was about Jordan.

Ianou 03-10-2007 10:50 PM

Re: Better floor leader: Jordan or Magic?
 
Yea I know it might have been confusing. It's kind of my fault but I wrote about Jordan because I felt like I had nothing to add for Magic.

Loki 03-10-2007 11:03 PM

Re: Better floor leader: Jordan or Magic?
 
Phil Jackson in his book said something to the effect of "just because a guy has the ball in his hands all the time doesn't mean that he's a leader; a guy like Jordan or Bird I feel were much better leaders than Magic Johnson." (paraphrased)


I'd say Magic, myself, though the edge is not huge (their styles differed wildly, though), and it doesn't make him the better player imo.

Ianou 03-10-2007 11:06 PM

Re: Better floor leader: Jordan or Magic?
 
Jackson would be expected to say that seeing as how most of his NBA rings are thanks to his airness...

DreamRockets 03-10-2007 11:06 PM

Re: Better floor leader: Jordan or Magic?
 
phil is just wrong, magic defined what a "floor general" is.

Loki 03-10-2007 11:08 PM

Re: Better floor leader: Jordan or Magic?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamRockets
phil is just wrong, magic defined what a "floor general" is.


I know, I was just posting his comments. I myself disagree with him, though I don't think the gap is large in that area at all. Different leadership styles (and different positions, which contributed to that), though.

Penny37 03-10-2007 11:09 PM

Re: Better floor leader: Jordan or Magic?
 
Larry Bird should be right up there with Magic and MJ, as well. He was a force to be reckoned with and really played his heart out.


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