[QUOTE]this is not a debate about the better player, in which I'd say Magic[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE]this is not a debate about the better player, in which I'd say Magic[/QUOTE]
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Magic was the better floor leader overall, however, MJ was a more dynamic player where he had all the offensive moves in the book.
[QUOTE=Penny37]Larry Bird should be right up there with Magic and MJ[/quote]
Without question.
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Great contribution followed by good insight. It had no relevance to the question.
[QUOTE]Great contribution followed by good insight[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE]It had no relevance to the question[/QUOTE]
why bring it up then?
Magic...
Magic. :bowdown:
Magic was the better floor leader, but Jordan was an underrated passer and the superior player.
Still, let's face it, Scottie Pippen was almost as much of a floor leader as Jordan.
[QUOTE=MVP]Magic was the better floor leader overall, however, MJ was a more dynamic player where he had all the offensive moves in the book.[/QUOTE]
Jordan was obviously the superior pure scorer in comparison to Magic, but Air's greatest edge was on the defensive end. Jordan was one of the best perimeter defenders of all-time, whereas Magic was a mediocre individual defender at best. Some have said that Magic didn't really play defense, although he was an effective team defender who came up with steals.
I'd say Magic is the better floor leader at game time.
Michael might have been a better overall leader. The stories you hear about him in practice, the early morning weight lifting club, and even seeing Phil actually let him coach the team during timeouts on a semi-regular basis, point to a 24/7 leader type.
I haven't heard enough Magic stories to say whether or not he did that kind of stuff.
[QUOTE=PMshooter]I haven't heard enough Magic stories to say whether or not he did that kind of stuff.[/QUOTE]Then I'll give you some Magic "stories". By the age of 20 Magic Johnson had a high school state championship, an NCAA College Championship, and an NBA Championship to his name. That's 3 levels of Championships in 4 years with Magic getting MVP for all three Championships, I believe. I don't think that will ever happen again. How's that for leadership?
For me, it's Magic over Jordan as the better floor leader.
between those two, i'd say magic simply because with magic on the court you almost didn't need to run an offense. he could literally create offense for everyone as long as the team could rebound and outlet to him. all time bill russell may have a legit argument though.
[QUOTE=dejordan]between those two, i'd say magic simply because with magic on the court you almost didn't need to run an offense. he could literally create offense for everyone as long as the team could rebound and outlet to him. all time bill russell may have a legit argument though.[/QUOTE]
To me, Bill Russell was the greatest overall leader of all-time, period. In terms of a floor leader (usually the point guard or playmaker), Magic is as fine a choice as any.
Thanks for the opinions boys. Just wanted to prove a point to someone here, unfortunately did not enter thread. Smart guy.
stricly speaking leadership wise:
Jordan = Magic = Bird
cant pick one. all 3 were exceptional leaders while having unbelievable STATs & winning season MVPs & being playoff MVPs & FMVPs too.