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Re: Miami's road to the Finals: Charlotte, Toronto and Washington/Atlanta
[QUOTE=Lebron23]Bulls choked against the Wizards. Nene owned Joakim Noah the reigning defensive player of the year in the first round of the playoffs.[/QUOTE]
Bulls didn't choke
At most they seemed like they were runned down. Gortat getting every loose ball is probably evidence of that.
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[QUOTE=Heavincent]They're not garbage. They're just not playoff teams if you put them in the west.[/QUOTE]
Can you tell me which teams are coming to the East if those teams are going West ?
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Re: Miami's road to the Finals: Charlotte, Toronto and Washington/Atlanta
1987 Lakers (Regarded as one of the greatest teams of all time) road to the finals:
Denver 37-45: -1.14 SRS
Golden State 42-40: -2.53 SRS
Seattle 39-43: 0.08 SRS
2014 Miami Heat theoretical path to the finals:
Charlotte 43-39: -0.89 SRS
Toronto 48-34: 2.55 SRS
Washington 44-38: 0.48 SRS
If you think 10 years from now anybody will care about how "easy" the Heat's path was/is you're an idiot.
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[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]1987 Lakers (Regarded as one of the greatest teams of all time) road to the finals:
Denver 37-45: -1.14 SRS
Golden State 42-40: -2.53 SRS
Seattle 39-43: 0.08 SRS
2014 Miami Heat theoretical path to the finals:
Charlotte 43-39: -0.89 SRS
Toronto 48-34: 2.55 SRS
Washington 44-38: 0.48 SRS
If you think 10 years from now anybody will care about how "easy" the Heat's path was/is you're an idiot.[/QUOTE]
So basically people forgetting is the only way that Lebron's rings become legitimate and not asterisks? Nice game plan by his stans.
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Embarrassing.
Another asterisk.
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Re: Miami's road to the Finals: Charlotte, Toronto and Washington/Atlanta
[QUOTE=PickernRoller]So basically people forgetting is the only way that Lebron's rings become legitimate and not asterisks? Nice game plan by his stans.[/QUOTE]
By your logic are Magic rings asterisks????
Easier road to the Finals with a more Stacked roster.
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[QUOTE=Heavincent]They're not garbage. They're just not playoff teams if you put them in the west.
Facts are facts :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Apparently OKC can't handle defensive based teams... which means OKC might be worse off if some of the east teams were in the west.
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[IMG]http://gifsoup.com/view3/3810284/heat-dancing-o.gif[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=edrick]Apparently OKC can't handle defensive based teams... which means OKC might be worse off if some of the east teams were in the west.[/QUOTE]
8th seed in the East will likely take out the Pacers but I think Pacers would crush OKC in a series. Match ups and styles make fights.
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it would be pretty funny if the heat loses to one of these teams
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Re: Miami's road to the Finals: Charlotte, Toronto and Washington/Atlanta
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill]it would be pretty funny if the heat loses to one of these teams[/QUOTE]
They certainly can. Not sure why people are over looking either Toronto or Washington or even Brooklyn.
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[QUOTE=MMM]Those teams are better than you think
Remember when people thought the Pacers were not good competition for the Heat in 2012. However realized how wrong they were after it went 7.
Well I seriously believe Toronto and Washington are on that level if not better, this Miami team is a lot worse than their past Championship teams as well..[/QUOTE]
Truth, Heatles are in for some battles in the east. Bad NBA Fans about to wake up to the realization that Mia is not invincible
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Re: Miami's road to the Finals: Charlotte, Toronto and Washington/Atlanta
Least wins by conference opponents for a Finals appearance in NBA history I'd imagine. Probably not even close. (This is assuming the Hawks somehow make the ECF.)
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[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]They certainly can. Not sure why people are over looking either Toronto or Washington or even Brooklyn.[/QUOTE]
It's not extremely likely. But it would be funny because everyone is saying they have such an easy road to the finals. But if the Heat actually thought that way, they would be dead meat.
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[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]They certainly can. Not sure why people are over looking either Toronto or Washington or even Brooklyn.[/QUOTE]
Word, it might be unlikely but there have been crazier upsets. This post season already might potentially provide some as well.
I've said this before but this Miami team is jot even as good as past teams.
Probably the worst in the LeBron era and their role players look like they are on their last legs. There is only so much LeBron can do.
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[QUOTE=Droid101]Least wins by conference opponents for a Finals appearance in NBA history I'd imagine. Probably not even close. (This is assuming the Hawks somehow make the ECF.)[/QUOTE]
You are very uneducated. :coleman:
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Re: Miami's road to the Finals: Charlotte, Toronto and Washington/Atlanta
[QUOTE=Droid101]Least wins by conference opponents for a Finals appearance in NBA history I'd imagine. Probably not even close. (This is assuming the Hawks somehow make the ECF.)[/QUOTE]
Guess you missed the 87 Lakers run that was posted with teams under. 500 in multiple rounds.
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[QUOTE=IncarceratedBob]Any of the 8 WC playoff teams would beat the Wiz in a 7 game series[/QUOTE]
And then some!
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Re: Miami's road to the Finals: Charlotte, Toronto and Washington/Atlanta
[QUOTE=Heavincent]:roll:
You know the Wizards wouldn't have even made the playoffs if they were in the west, right? Not even close as a matter of fact.[/QUOTE]
Surely you have seen from these playoffs that having the better regular season record does NOT always mean that they are better.
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[QUOTE=Heavincent]They're not garbage. They're just not playoff teams if you put them in the west.
Facts are facts :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
This whole " put this team in the west" argument makes no sense. You can't just transplant a whole teams win loss record from another conference and expect it to be the same against a completely different conference. That's the most idiotic point I have seen in some time and you keep making it.
Washington/Toronto and Brooklyn are teams with depth and talent. I don't see what makes west teams, especially lower seeds like Dallas/Memphis/GSW a tier above them.
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s[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]1987 Lakers (Regarded as one of the greatest teams of all time) road to the finals:
Denver 37-45: -1.14 SRS
Golden State 42-40: -2.53 SRS
Seattle 39-43: 0.08 SRS
2014 Miami Heat theoretical path to the finals:
Charlotte 43-39: -0.89 SRS
Toronto 48-34: 2.55 SRS
Washington 44-38: 0.48 SRS
If you think 10 years from now anybody will care
about how "easy" the Heat's path was/is you're an idiot.[/QUOTE]
This
Kobetards are so stupid. They also forget that Kobe is averaging 25 ppg on 40 FG% against these pathetic eastern conference champions in the NBA Finals.
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[QUOTE=Just2McFly]This whole " put this team in the west" argument makes no sense. You can't just transplant a whole teams win loss record from another conference and expect it to be the same against a completely different conference. That's the most idiotic point I have seen in some time and you keep making it.
Washington/Toronto and Brooklyn are teams with depth and talent. I don't see what makes west teams, especially lower seeds like Dallas/Memphis/GSW a tier above them.[/QUOTE]
Nailed it right on the head. But nowadays the only thing Heat haters have left is hypotheticals.
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Re: Miami's road to the Finals: Charlotte, Toronto and Washington/Atlanta
[QUOTE=Just2McFly]This whole " put this team in the west" argument makes no sense. You can't just transplant a whole teams win loss record from another conference and expect it to be the same against a completely different conference. That's the most idiotic point I have seen in some time and you keep making it.
[B]Washington/Toronto and Brooklyn are teams with depth and talent. I don't see what makes west teams, especially lower seeds like Dallas/Memphis/GSW a tier above them.[/B][/QUOTE]
The first part is right, but then you fck it up in the second part. Although people don't mean that in the literal sense, but making a point of the level of competition in the 2 conferences.
Dallas, Memphis and Golden State are all better teams, Wiz are really hard to judge right now, they could easily fold up like a bad tent against a team like Miami. Toronto are not built to win a championship now, too young and inexperienced. Brooklyn are the most part old, and blow big leads because of it.
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The Heat are still an awesome team. They will miss Mike Miller in the finals though. Dude is a killer.
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Come on guys have some respect at the end of the day they're all professionals
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[QUOTE=Heavincent]:roll:
You know the Wizards wouldn't have even made the playoffs if they were in the west, right? Not even close as a matter of fact.[/QUOTE]
Yes because Miller, Gooden, Nene and Harrington played every game right? Those are/were all crucial pieces to our team in the regular season and they either were not on the team for much of the season or missed a whole bunch of games due to injury. On top of that, Beal missed quite a few games.
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[QUOTE=JohnMax]This is down right embarrassing :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Meh, it'll be a moot point yet again once the Heat dismantle their WC counterpart in the finals.
b-b-b-but the ''elite'' west teams got all battered & bruised In the 1st and 2nd rounds! No fair!
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Re: Miami's road to the Finals: Charlotte, Toronto and Washington/Atlanta
Miami aren't bothered but yeah this is why we need top 16 teams in the playoffs
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Re: Miami's road to the Finals: Charlotte, Toronto and Washington/Atlanta
Colluding. Things are Just how Lebeta and his blind idiot followers like it, as easy as possible, then try and throw it in everyone's face like its some great accomplishment :lol
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[QUOTE=bigkingsfan]Washington could beat any Western Conference team.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://cdn.business2community.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/michael-jordan-lol.gif[/IMG]
Washington couldn't Beat the Suns in a series, let alone OKC / LAC / MEM / SAS
Maybe they could take out DAL / GSW
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Re: Miami's road to the Finals: Charlotte, Toronto and Washington/Atlanta
[QUOTE=jimmy77x]Colluding. Things are Just how Lebeta and his blind idiot followers like it, as easy as possible, then try and throw it in everyone's like its some great accomplishment :lol[/QUOTE]
Lebron is still an all time talent. He took the easy way to a ring or whatever. He may not be a Duncan or Shaq but the dude is still great. No need to hate. Appreciate the game you love.
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Leastern conference. Every one of Leflop's rings has an asterisk on it.
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[QUOTE=Big#50]Lebron is still an all time talent. He took the easy way to a ring or whatever. He may not be a Duncan or Shaq but the dude is still great. No need to hate. Appreciate the game you love.[/QUOTE]
He is a better player than Duncan ever was. That much is apparent from watching the game.
Shaq is better than both of them.
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[QUOTE=plowking]He is a better player than Duncan ever was. That much is apparent from watching the game.
Shaq is better than both of them.[/QUOTE]
Lebron would be the goat forward if the Heat wins another championship this year.
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[QUOTE=All Net]Miami aren't bothered but yeah this is why we need top 16 teams in the playoffs[/QUOTE]
This, I agree with. Sucks seeing teams like Phoenix not in the playoffs. But what's annoying is people trying to make it seem like Miami has control of what other teams do.
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ill just copy and paste..
lol @ people still shitting on miami.
Knicks/Nets/Bulls/Pacers were supposed to be good and teams like the cavs and the wizards were supposed to be sleeper teams.
its not the heat's fault that they all underachieved. if we want to play this game, then I could say that miami has the hardest playoff run ever, beating teams that could beat a team with multiple allstars and future HOf in the nets, and the east are so strong that even a melo led team cnat make it to the playoffs. Im just saying~stop arguing how easy it is for miami, they are back to back champs, even if they are not in the west they deserve the benefit of the doubt..
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Re: Miami's road to the Finals: Charlotte, Toronto and Washington/Atlanta
When did Toronto and especially Atlanta win their series? Have I missed something?
Atlanta is by far the worst team in this year's Playoffs and a series ain't over till it's over. Stop this premature threads, same shit every year.
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Pacers, Brooklyn might still make it. Besides, if you thought the Pacers had a chance to beat the Heat... then why wouldn't the team that beat the Pacers over a 7 game series have a chance too? Atlanta is potentially a Cinderella story in the making.
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:roll: @ those teams.
Stacked as fvck, yet they still get to cake walk to the finals. :oldlol:
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Re: Miami's road to the Finals: Charlotte, Toronto and Washington/Atlanta
[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]1987 Lakers (Regarded as one of the greatest teams of all time) road to the finals:
Denver 37-45: -1.14 SRS
Golden State 42-40: -2.53 SRS
Seattle 39-43: 0.08 SRS
2014 Miami Heat theoretical path to the finals:
Charlotte 43-39: -0.89 SRS
Toronto 48-34: 2.55 SRS
Washington 44-38: 0.48 SRS
If you think 10 years from now anybody will care about how "easy" the Heat's path was/is you're an idiot.[/QUOTE]
The Heat's Eastern Conference playoff run, based solely on the regular season records of their potential opponents, would not be much different than the Bulls first title run in '91.
Knicks- 39-43
76rs- 44-38
Pistons- 50-31