12.1 to 12.5 while having less completions
oh wow
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12.1 to 12.5 while having less completions
oh wow
[QUOTE=CelticBaller]12.1 to 12.5 while having less completions
oh wow[/QUOTE]
It's not even a stat people go by, yards per attempt is a better way to judge a QB and Brady has Wentz beat by a sizable margin in that category.
Brady has Wentz beat in so many categories that the haters have to look at things like yards per completion.:lol
Passer rating and yards won Ryan the MVP over the best record(Brady) and the most TD(Rodgers)
Record 15-1 with an absurd total TD (45) won Cam the MVP, his competition, Brady had a 12-4 record and threw just 36td.
If the Eagles finish with the same, or 1 win more than the patriots, whith Brady accounting to 2-3 TD LESS than Wentz, while having all around better passing stats. Judging by previous history the MVP will go to him
Ryan won just as many games as Brady.
Brady didn't lead in any major category.
Ryan was the best in all the main categories besides TDS of all main competitors for MVP, which is why he won.
Main statistical categories Wentz has:
Wins
QBR
TDs
Brady:
Yards
Passer Rating
One thing is clear, voters don't value yards that much.
They do value Passer Rating, however considering a lot of voters work for ESPN, and ESPN heavily endorses Total QBR (Wentz leads Brady) it's not unfair or hating to expect them to feel that category is a wash for both.
Then it comes down to two big ones, wins and TDS both of which currently Wentz has over Brady.
Not hard to understand. You guys thinking it's outrageous Wentz is above Brady just shows how disconnected you are with reality.
Also when voters look at it contextually and see Brady has by far the two best weapons to throw to while Wentz is doing it without a 1000 yard receiver or 1000 yard rusher...... they'll give him extra points for that as well.
yeah because that clearly mattered last year :oldlol: :facepalm
Whichever QB gets all pro usually wins MVP. Brady is clearly on path right now going by previous history
Anyways and the chances that Wentz finished with a better record and more TD is low considering Brady's last games compared to Wentz
What happens in the future has nothing to do with right now. We're talking about the candidates as they are today. The discussion will likely change given 30 percent of the season still remains.
You're really using QBR as an argument?
Prescott has a higher QBR than Wilson, Mariota has a higher QBR than Brees. It's one of the most garbage stat there is.
I don't know how many times I have to say this for it to register in your brain.
Do I need to say it five more times? Ten?
I'm going by what VOTERS will do. They will most certainly look at and value total QBR for reasons previously stated.
QB rating is flawed as well if we want to go that route.
[QUOTE=CelticBaller]Passer rating and yards won Ryan the MVP over the best record(Brady) and the most TD(Rodgers)
Record 15-1 with an absurd total TD (45) won Cam the MVP, his competition, Brady had a 12-4 record and threw just 36td.
If the Eagles finish with the same, or 1 win more than the patriots, whith Brady accounting to 2-3 TD LESS than Wentz, while having all around better passing stats. Judging by previous history the MVP will go to him[/QUOTE]
Based on recent voting, the voters would absolutely HAVE to completely ignore the stats to not give it to Brady. Which would be a total 180 and new double standard, since in recent years the best stats and just making the playoffs won MVP. Excluding last year, when Brady had the best stats and record, but they claimed he was ineligible because of missing 4 games.
How can they claim that this season? He missed no games, so the voters have no excuses. They would be totally making up entirely new criteria for the award, if Wentz got it.
Went does not have the best stats, and he is not on a team with a way better record (by at least several wins) over the guy that does (Brady). So if Wentz is the MVP, the voters are just making up whatever criteria they can think of to justify an anyone but Brady vote.
Does Wentz meet the criteria for Ryan last year? No, because Brady missed 4 games so the voters claimed that made best stats and best record irrelevant. Brady has not missed 4 games this year, so no propping Wentz up in a vote like last year with Ryan.
Does Wentz meet the criteria Newton had when he won it? Best record by several games over the guys with the best overall stats passing-wise (Palmer and Brady), while also adding a bunch of rushing touchdowns to get a big edge in total td's? No, he does not. In fact, his team is one game ahead, and he had just two passing td's more.
Does Wentz meet the criteria that was set when Rodgers won in 2013? Which was just all around best combination of overall stats and win-loss record, as opposed to the other QBs? No, he does not. 2 more td's and one more team win, don't equate that with much less yards and a much lower completion %. Never mind that Philly has a better O-line, a better run game, and a weaker SOS than New England does, along with less key injuries to deal with so far.
Wentz being MVP over Brady is suddenly changing all the criteria voters used in recent years. Which indeed starts to make the award look like a joke, where voters just pick whatever player they want, then justify it somehow.
You can argue in recent years why someone might have deserved MVP other than Rodgers, Newton, Ryan, but you can't argue against them either. And like I said, Brady had the better stats and record, but voters used the missing 4 games as the reason for Ryan to win......there is no such reason for something like that this year between Wentz and Brady.
Brady didn't have the better stats. He was behind in QBR, total QBR, Yards, TDs, tied for most wins.
If Brady led Wentz in TDs, QBR, Total QBR, Yards and tied for most wins it would be a different story.
Brady leads in pass yards and QBR right now.
Its not like Wentz leads no major stat category, I would say TDs and wins are the two most weighted stats for a MVP. Wentz leads both.
[QUOTE=Carbine]I don't know how many times I have to say this for it to register in your brain.
Do I need to say it five more times? Ten?
I'm going by what VOTERS will do. They will most certainly look at and value total QBR for reasons previously stated.
QB rating is flawed as well if we want to go that route.[/QUOTE]
QB rating is still miles better than QBR.
Wentz is ahead of Brady right now.
It
Carbine is CLEARLY stating what he thinks the voters will do but the two Brady nut huggers have their panties so far up their ******s that they can't comprehend what he's saying.