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OneWay 08-08-2007 07:04 AM

KG hypocrisy
 
I'm just curious about something. KG's been pretty much completely forgotten the last 3 years because his team kept missing the playoffs.
Sure, KG put up great stats and was still the same player as ever, if not better but he was off the radar and many people started putting likes of Nash and Dirk in front of him.

However, now KG is on a great team and he"ll start winning again.

Will he get back on the radar and will people start treating him as top 5 where he undoubtably belongs?

See, what I'm talking about is this.

He's the same damn player. This season, last 3 seasons, a season before that.....he hasn't changed, he hasn't declined.

Yet he was treated like royalty 4 seasons ago while the last 3 he was pretty much a non factor to many people..

Yet...the same player. Don't you see a hypocrsy? He will get picked higher only because...he"ll be on a better team.

And just for the record, KG was always a top 5 for me. Top 3 in fact. Kobe, Duncan and KG.

Here's a thread about it from before KG got traded to the Celts.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39684

Will he again be considered a top 5 or even the best player in the league because he"ll be on a good team?
If yes then what the hell is wrong with standards today? What are the standards? Being on the good team? And getting all the credit for winning when in fact basketball's a 5 on 5 game and there are many factors involved?
No one was able to win by himself. Not Wilt, not MJ and not KG. Hope you get the point.

Mathius 08-08-2007 07:08 AM

Re: KG hypocrisy
 
This is normal for ISH. They have attention spans that only last until the next game. If a player can throw down some crazy dunks, they're more likely to get recognized than a solid core player who has been doing their job for the last 5 years.

Mathius

Cannonball 08-08-2007 07:10 AM

Re: KG hypocrisy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OneWay
I'm just curious about something. KG's been pretty much completely forgotten the last 3 years because his team kept missing the playoffs.
Sure, KG put up great stats and was still the same player as ever, if not better but he was off the radar and many people started putting likes of Nash and Dirk in front of him.

However, now KG is on a great team and he"ll start winning again.

Will he get back on the radar and will people start treating him as top 5 where he undoubtably belongs?

See, what I'm talking about is this.

He's the same damn player. This season, last 3 seasons, a season before that.....he hasn't changed, he hasn't declined.

Yet he was treated like royalty 4 seasons ago while the last 3 he was pretty much a non factor to many people..

Yet...the same player. Don't you see a hypocrsy? He will get picked higher only because...he"ll be on a better team.

And just for the record, KG was always a top 5 for me. Top 3 in fact. Kobe, Duncan and KG.

Here's a thread about it from before KG got traded to the Celts.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39684

Will he again be considered a top 5 or even the best player in the league because he"ll be on a good team?
If yes then what the hell is wrong with standards today? What are the standards? Being on the good team? And getting all the credit for winning when in fact basketball's a 5 on 5 game and there are many factors involved?
No one was able to win by himself. Not Wilt, not MJ and not KG. Hope you get the point.

and TD wasn't on anybodys top 5 before the Play offs. It was Nash Dirk Kobe Bron Wade/Gil/Melo....

chains5000 08-08-2007 07:42 AM

Re: KG hypocrisy
 
I remember some Lebron >>>>> KG threads :no:

Sharas 08-08-2007 08:03 AM

Re: KG hypocrisy
 
i rank him just below duncan and dirk, and on same level with kobe. no one else comes close to KG's total impact on the game.

2LeTTeRS KD 08-08-2007 08:58 AM

Re: KG hypocrisy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannonball
and TD wasn't on anybodys top 5 before the Play offs. It was Nash Dirk Kobe Bron Wade/Gil/Melo....


Nah, maybe taht was your top 5, but for the real knowledgable people here Timmy has been at least top 3 for the last 7-8 years.

DaBull 08-08-2007 11:21 AM

Re: KG hypocrisy
 
I have always held KG to a high standard, always felt bad for him being stuck in Sotta. Thank God hes out now he can shine

Optimus Prime 08-08-2007 11:24 AM

Re: KG hypocrisy
 
I have always rated KG as one of the best players in the current NBA. He's the only reason the T-Wolves ever won ANY games, even when they sucked horribly. They'd probably be the first 0-82 team without KG these past few years...

det2orl 08-08-2007 11:41 AM

Re: KG hypocrisy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharas
i rank him just below duncan and dirk, and on same level with kobe. no one else comes close to KG's total impact on the game.


So you rank Dirk higher than Kobe?!?!?...................:roll: :roll: :roll:

Fluffy Bird 08-08-2007 11:43 AM

Re: KG hypocrisy
 
KG plays hard every night, but he and TMac are basically compilers until they prove otherwise.

Chuck Thou NBA 08-08-2007 11:43 AM

Re: KG hypocrisy
 
thats the gayest avatar on ish

Fluffy Bird 08-08-2007 11:44 AM

Re: KG hypocrisy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck Thou NBA
thats the gayest avatar on ish


from the guy who has 'thou' in his user name.

:applause:

dawsey6 08-08-2007 11:49 AM

Re: KG hypocrisy
 
Last season he was a regular on the Top 10 in the nba.com MVP race. He's always been one of the top players in the league to me, whether he plays with Spree and Sam and wins 58 or plays with Tom and Jerry and win 2 games. KG has been slammed for not having a ring, or not even making it to the Finals, but I don't buy all of that, because KG has always been slammed for the hell of it. KG was 20/10/4 with almost 2 blocks and steals at like 22, and he was still being slammed for not being more selfish, of all things.

Sharas 08-08-2007 11:56 AM

Re: KG hypocrisy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by det2orl
So you rank Dirk higher than Kobe?!?!?...................:roll: :roll: :roll:


in terms of total impact on game, yes. not saying it isn't debatable, but it's my opinion. if i had to choose one of them, right now it would be dirk (if we don't count marketing reasons). dirk has consistently shown for past 3 years that he CAN carry a good/great team on his back.

ChrisConley 08-08-2007 12:10 PM

Re: KG hypocrisy
 
Just something to think about. KG has always put up the best stats and has been in the top two in fantasy drafts for 4 years but he hasn't really played with any other great players. Paul and Ray are going to take some bites out of his stats. People might see his stats dropping and say he's not as good as he used to be.


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