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JeanPaulGaultier 08-19-2007 02:33 PM

2 More Games That Were Obviously Rigged
 
Here are two games that any objective fan can say are dubious at best. With the new Ref allegations (Possibly 20+ putting money on games) you can't help but think these games were bull****. Why do I put the Laker up? First off, anyone that knows the betting world knows that the most popular team in the league will have deflated spreads and odds compared to a team like the Raptors who no one gives a **** about. Fact is, people are more inclined to bet their team so oddsmakers can dangle out odds that aren't in line with the chances and a lot more people will put money on these games. Here you got superstar match ups that obviously saw a lot of action and the calls are completely biased. Plus, regular season games are a lot easier to rig then postseason since there's less outside attention/scrutiny. So here are the clips let me know waht you think...

Lebron v Kobe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6rl4...elated&search=


D-Whistle v Kobe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZyD3Zjuxvw

fatboy11 08-19-2007 02:39 PM

Re: 2 More Games That Were Obviously Rigged
 
Obviously, huh?

:rollingeyes:

JeanPaulGaultier 08-19-2007 02:43 PM

Re: 2 More Games That Were Obviously Rigged
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fatboy11
Obviously, huh?

:rollingeyes:

Yep, Kerr summed it up perfectly in the heat game and anyone with eyes can see that the Cavs game was a joke. Almost all those dubious calls were in the fourth but you're right cause you respond with an emoction rather than anything legit right?

fatboy11 08-19-2007 02:44 PM

Re: 2 More Games That Were Obviously Rigged
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JeanPaulGaultier
Yep, Kerr summed it up perfectly in the heat game and anyone with eyes can see that the Cavs game was a joke. Almost all those dubious calls were in the fourth but you're right cause you respond with an emoction rather than anything legit right?

Your opinion is not legit. You don't have anything "legit". Just something that you think.

So I'm not alone.

SoCalMike 08-19-2007 02:45 PM

Re: 2 More Games That Were Obviously Rigged
 
Oh man... I am getting tired of these 'this game was rigged,' 'that game was unfair'...blah, blah, blah....

So far, there is no conclusive evidence of anything, so stop posting that stuff until you have facts.



:pimp:

JeanPaulGaultier 08-19-2007 02:52 PM

Re: 2 More Games That Were Obviously Rigged
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalMike
Oh man... I am getting tired of these 'this game was rigged,' 'that game was unfair'...blah, blah, blah....

So far, there is no conclusive evidence of anything, so stop posting that stuff until you have facts.



:pimp:

It will all come out when Donaghy rolls over on his fellow refs. Absolute evidence isn't there yet may never be because you can't prove that this game or that game was rigged or tainted with absolute certainty. IMO if over 5 refs are involved thats enough to cast a shadow on a bunch of things like it or not (Dallas Miami or Suns Spurs). The NBA is in a crisis that only boxing can rival. Will it still be popular. Probably. Does it mean every game in recent years is legit? I don't think so that's why I put these two up for fellow fans to decide.

Lebron23 08-19-2007 02:55 PM

Re: 2 More Games That Were Obviously Rigged
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2cy5...elated&search=

Kige will do the talking byeeches :pimp: .. Just Stop, look and listen fools.

Phar 08-19-2007 02:57 PM

Re: 2 More Games That Were Obviously Rigged
 
These videos don't tell the whole truth though. They don't show the calls they did get. So, there can be a lot of fouls that were called, and a lot that weren't.


Anyway, even if any games were "fixed" there's really nothing you can do about it. Too many "ifs" involved..

SoCalMike 08-19-2007 02:58 PM

Re: 2 More Games That Were Obviously Rigged
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JeanPaulGaultier
It will all come out when Donaghy rolls over on his fellow refs. Absolute evidence isn't there yet may never be because you can't prove that this game or that game was rigged or tainted with absolute certainty. IMO if over 5 refs are involved thats enough to cast a shadow on a bunch of things like it or not (Dallas Miami or Suns Spurs). The NBA is in a crisis that only boxing can rival. Will it still be popular. Probably. Does it mean every game in recent years is legit? I don't think so that's why I put these two up for fellow fans to decide.


You portraying situations as fact is plain rediculous... as I said above, until there are facts, people should stop posting as if they are. Its a tired act and it just makes you sound like you are whining.



:pimp:

fatboy11 08-19-2007 03:01 PM

Re: 2 More Games That Were Obviously Rigged
 
Has there been any kind of evidence than more than Donaghey was involved with fixing games?

Absolutely not. All we know is that he is going to give the names of roughly 20 refs who were involved in some type of gambling (most of it in casinos).

JeanPaulGaultier 08-19-2007 03:06 PM

Re: 2 More Games That Were Obviously Rigged
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fatboy11
Has there been any kind of evidence than more than Donaghey was involved with fixing games?

Absolutely not. All we know is that he is going to give the names of roughly 20 refs who were involved in some type of gambling (most of it in casinos).

Yea there has been evidence he pleaded guilty to the charges... doesn't seem like something an innocent man in his position would do. Obviously the feds had overwhelming evidence of the fact. 20 refs, most casino??? Casino or no casino a ref shouldn't be putting money on sports. I love to gamble, hell I'm born and raised in Vegas, but I'm not reffing pro sport games cause the conflict of interest there is far to great to even risk it. I wonder how much Donaghy made on this game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvkKd...elated&search=

JeanPaulGaultier 08-19-2007 03:19 PM

Re: 2 More Games That Were Obviously Rigged
 
Another clearly rigged game. Donaghy wasn't involved but I bet at least one of these refs were on the take. I actually put money on this game and lost it when I saw the fix was on. But who cares as long as the refs get theres. Old man Bavetta is nothing more than a wolf in sheeps clothing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nyu69Oj1q4&NR=1

jasonterry 08-19-2007 03:20 PM

Re: 2 More Games That Were Obviously Rigged
 
please don't make kobe out to be some sort of martyr. when the lakers where a title team he got the most ridiculous calls. i can't remember what game it was but in the WCF i remember wally went nowhere near him and they called a foul on wally in OT in what turned out to be a game changing call.

plus the whole fact he should be in jail right now.

Poseidon 08-19-2007 03:29 PM

Re: 2 More Games That Were Obviously Rigged
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonterry
please don't make kobe out to be some sort of martyr. when the lakers where a title team he got the most ridiculous calls. i can't remember what game it was but in the WCF i remember wally went nowhere near him and they called a foul on wally in OT in what turned out to be a game changing call.

plus the whole fact he should be in jail right now.....for dropping 62 in 3 quarters against the sorry Mavs and outscoring their entire team


Fixed.

04mzwach 08-19-2007 03:33 PM

Re: 2 More Games That Were Obviously Rigged
 
Looks like the refs weren't favoring Kobe at all. Those videos show some poor reffing. I hope it gets better next year, but I doubt it. I mean, KG gets hacked on 100-200 jump shots each year and the refs never call it.


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