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ChuckOakley 09-24-2007 11:11 AM

AK or Artest
 
Which volatile SF would you rather have on your team, and what would you be willing to give up for them?

For the Knick's I'd rather have Artest. He's a hometown kid, who whould love playing in the Big Apple. I'd give up expirers (Dickau, Jones), and one of Collins, Chandler, #1 for him.

For the Nets, I think I'd rather have AK. He could play the 3 or 4, would get touches on offense and could play well in the open court with Kidd and Co. I'd give up Collins, Mags and Boki for him.

Note that is where I would start the bidding for each, realizing it may take more, but I don't either one is worth much more at this point.

ErhnamDjinn 09-24-2007 11:15 AM

Re: AK or Artest
 
If ron werent a dumb@ss id choice him always, good defender can score plus he has that enforcer attitude that the Nets needs, although AK's fine im just scared he might get injured at some point of the season.

Perezident 09-24-2007 11:36 AM

Re: AK or Artest
 
Def Artest men!

he has a much better All around game imo. Can give you 25+ points on any given night and still record 6-8 rebs 4 assist and 2 steals a game....

where as AK can give u 15 points 7-9 rebs 1 assist 2 steals and 1 block a game

Seņor Cedric 09-24-2007 11:36 AM

Re: AK or Artest
 
For the Celtics I'd take AK47 I guess, then trade him for something else.

Prodigy 09-24-2007 10:58 PM

Re: AK or Artest
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Perezident
Def Artest men!

he has a much better All around game imo. Can give you 25+ points on any given night and still record 6-8 rebs 4 assist and 2 steals a game....

where as AK can give u 15 points 7-9 rebs 1 assist 2 steals and 1 block a game


You're totally downplaying AK's stats. That's no different from me saying that Ron will net you 14 points 3 rebounds 2 assists and 1 steal a game.

ILballa 09-24-2007 11:51 PM

Re: AK or Artest
 
I'd rather have Artest. He's a better defender, better offensive player and he's bigger.


artificial 09-25-2007 12:00 AM

Re: AK or Artest
 
As a player Artest gets the nod 8 times out of 10.

But if you factor in the player's character, it's a more interesting question. AK would've gotten my vote hadn't he baby cried the way he did last week. But Artest isn't high on my list either since the trade drama at Indiana.

Mewwem22 09-25-2007 12:03 AM

Re: AK or Artest
 
AK is a better help defender, rebounder, passer, and blocker. Cares about playing so much that he whines if he doesn't play enough.

Artest is a better shooter, on ball defender, and stealer. Cares about playing so little that he would rather make a lame CD than play.

I'd take AK.

Chalkmaze 09-25-2007 12:06 AM

Re: AK or Artest
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ILballa
I'd rather have Artest. He's a better defender, better offensive player and he's bigger.



Ak is taller and longer though... I don't think you can say Artest is better at defense, as AK does some things the Artest couldn't even dream of, when it comes to blocking and deflecting shots. Other things that AK has been known to do in the past are being downplayed in this thread. It's hard to say which guy is better when they are at their peak, it's close, so close that they even have similar hair styles.


magic chiongson 09-25-2007 12:12 AM

Re: AK or Artest
 
artest of course, salary-wise. but given the same salary, i'm not too sure..i'd proly go for AK

silencespeak 09-25-2007 12:16 AM

Re: AK or Artest
 
depends what a team needs. If I were looking for a defender, AK without a doubt.

bigkingsfan 09-25-2007 12:25 AM

Re: AK or Artest
 
AK is not a 1 on 1 lock down defender, he puts up good fantasy stats (well used too)... but give me Artest guarding your best guard/forward anyday.

YAWN 09-25-2007 12:28 AM

Re: AK or Artest
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigkingsfan
AK is not a 1 on 1 lock down defender, he puts up good fantasy stats (well used too)... but give me Artest guarding your best guard/forward anyday.

cosigned

poeticism707 09-25-2007 12:32 AM

Re: AK or Artest
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Prodigy
You're totally downplaying AK's stats. That's no different from me saying that Ron will net you 14 points 3 rebounds 2 assists and 1 steal a game.


AK's BEST SEASON was at about 15 points a game. How is he downplaying AK's stats?:ohwell:

ForceOfNature 09-25-2007 12:40 AM

Re: AK or Artest
 
I would take Ron Artest, because you get production on the offensive end as well as defensively.


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