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L.Kizzle 09-24-2007 01:01 PM

Official #91 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH
 
#90 - Mark Price was one of the top PGs of the late 80’s and early 90’s. He anchored the Cleveland Cavaliers as they made the Conference Finals in that period. He was one of the greatest free throw shooters of all-times, and you’d be surprised if he missed. He was also an accurate three-point shooter and a great passer.He was All-NBA 1st team in 1993 and made three 3rd teams.

| PPG 15.2 | RPG 2.6 | APG 6.7 | SPG 1.2 |
4 NBA All-Star Games
4 All NBA Teams
Free Throw Leader
1 Conference Finals Appearance






ISH 100 Greatest NBA Players of All-Time
1. Michael Jordan
2. Wilt Chamberlain
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Earvin 'Magic' Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Bill Russell
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Oscar Robertson
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Tim Duncan
11. Jerry West
12. Julius Erving
13. Moses Malone
14. Elgin Baylor
15. Bob Pettit
16. John Havlicek
17. Karl Malone
18. George Mikan
19. David Robinson
20. Isiah Thomas
21. Charles Barkley
22. John Stockton
23. Bob Cousy
24. Kobe Bryant
25. Rick Barry
26. Scottie Pippen
27. Clyde Drexler
28. Gary Payton
29. Willis Reed
30. Patrick Ewing
31. Allen Iverson
32. Walt Frazier
33. Elvin Hayes
34. George Gervin
35. Jason Kidd
36. Dave Cowens
37. Kevin Garnett
38. Bob McAdoo
39. Nate Thurmond
40. Wes Unseld
41. Kevin McHale
42. Dolph Schayes
43. Dominique Wilkins
44. Bill Walton
45. Sam Jones
46. Kevin Johnson
47. Dennis Rodman
48. Dirk Nowitzki
49. Steve Nash
50. Billy Cunningham
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51. Nate 'Tiny' Archibald
52. 'Pistol' Pete Maravich
53. Tracy McGrady
54. Hal Greer
55. Jerry Lucas
56. Robert Parish
57. Earl 'the Pearl' Monroe
58. Bernard King
59. Artis Gilmore
60. Alex English
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61. James Worthy
62. Joe Dumars
63. Bill Sharman
64. Reggie Miller
65. Paul Arizin
66. Sidney Moncrief
67. Dave DeBusschere
68. Dave Bing
69. David Thompson
70. Lenny Wilkens
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71. Adrian Dantley
72. Bob Lanier
73. Neil Johntson
74. Walt Bellamy
75. Vince Carter
76. Spencer Haywood
77. Ray Allen
78. Dennis Johnson
79. Paul Pierce
80. Dikembe Mutombo
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81. Connie Hawkins
82. Chris Webber
83. Chris Mullin
84. Grant Hill
85. Mitch Richmond
86. Dan Issel
87. 'Jumpin' Joe Fulks
88. Alonzo Mourning
89. Shawn Kemp
90. Mark Price

Players to consider:
Mark Aguirre
Maurice Cheeks
Mel Daniels
Bob Davies
Cliff Hagan
Anfernee Hardaway
Tim Hardaway
Tommy Heinsohn
Lou Hudson
Gus Johnson
Marques Johnson
Bobby Jones
Lafayette Lever
Ed MaCauley
George McGinnis
Vern Mikkelson
Jim Pollard
Jack Sikma
Ben Wallace
Paul Westphal


#90 Greatest Player Voting
Mark Price = 4 votes
George McGinnis = 3 votes
Anfernee Hardaway = 3 votes
Mel Daniels = 2 votes
Tim Hardaway = 2 votes
Tommy Heinsohn = 1 vote
Maurice Cheeks = 1 vote
Glen Rice = 1 vote
Sam Cassell = 1 vote


Official #90 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH

ForceOfNature 09-24-2007 01:17 PM

Re: Official #91 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH
 
Still gotta go with... Anfernee "Penny" Hardaway.


i seen hippos 09-24-2007 01:18 PM

Re: Official #91 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH
 
I will never get over the fact that T-Mac went 22 slots above VC.

Ridiculous.

L.Kizzle 09-24-2007 01:25 PM

Re: Official #91 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH
 
McGinnis > Anfernee


GEORGE McGINNIS


George McGinnis was one of the most feared forwards in the 1970’s. Starting his career in the ABA with Indiana, he helped them win a title his second year out wining playoff MVP and two years later was ABA MVP. He then joined the Philadelphia 76ers before the ABA folded and was named All-NBA 1st team for his work. The next season he was joined by his ABA rival Dr. J to form one of the best forward duo’s in the business as they went to the NBA Finals before losing. He joined high scoring Denver for 2 seasons and was back to All-Star form before finishing his career where he started it, in Indiana.


-6 ABA/NBA All-Star Teams
-ABA MVP
-ABA Playoff MVP
-2 All-ABA 1st Team
-1 All-ABA 2nd Team
-1 All-NBA 1st Team
-1 All-NBA 2nd Team
-Career high points per game 29.5
-Career high rebounds per game 14.7
-Career high assist per game 6.2
-Career high steals per game 2.7
-Career high FG% .50

Los Angeles 09-24-2007 01:25 PM

Re: Official #91 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH
 
Quote:

I will never get over the fact that T-Mac went 22 slots above VC.

Not as bad as Reggie Miller being 21 spots above Mitch Richmond...

WADE MONEY 09-24-2007 01:31 PM

Re: Official #91 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by i seen hippos
I will never get over the fact that T-Mac went 22 slots above VC.

Ridiculous.


point forwards are more important to team success than shooting forwards.

KempSonics 09-24-2007 01:52 PM

Re: Official #91 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH
 
George McGinnis

pj24lal 09-24-2007 02:52 PM

Re: Official #91 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceOfNature
Still gotta go with... Anfernee "Penny" Hardaway.



Yeah he's still my vote, too.

LBJ 4 MVP 09-24-2007 03:18 PM

Re: Official #91 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH
 
"Easy" Ed McCauley
Hall Of Famer
4 All-NBA Teams (Three 1st, 1 second)
All Star Game MVP
7 Time All-star
NBA Champion

Career High's:
PPG: 20.4
RPG: 9.1
APG: 4.1

Career Stats:
PPG: 17.5
RPG: 7.5
APG: 3.2
And he did much of his work in the "dead ball era"

kobelamarjackson 09-24-2007 03:37 PM

Re: Official #91 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH
 
larry nance

dhenk 09-24-2007 03:40 PM

Re: Official #91 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH
 
Tommy Heinsohn

Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketbball Hall of Fame (1986); Eight-time NBA champion (1957, 1959-'65); All-NBA Second Team (1961-'64); Six-time NBA All-Star (1957, '61-65); Rookie of the Year (1957).

C´mon, this man has to be in before this list reaches the 100...

bomber 09-24-2007 04:33 PM

Re: Official #91 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH
 
Tommy Heinsohn NOWWWWWWWW

NastaMaverick 09-24-2007 04:36 PM

Re: Official #91 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH
 
Penny

D-Fence 09-24-2007 05:29 PM

Re: Official #91 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH
 
I vote for Mel Daniels again.

Here's what I posted last round:
Quote:

George McGinnis is a good selection here. He was definetly better than Connie Hawkins and Dan Issel. In the 1974-75 ABA season, when he was co-MVP with Julius Erving, he led the Indiana Pacers to a winning record and the Finals after the team had lost much of its core by giving away Mel Daniels, Roger Brown, and Freddie Lewis (for financial reasons, I think). He's often compared to Karl Malone, for his exceptional strength and quickness. Even in the NBA, for 4 seasons, he was more than a 20/10 power forward.

When McGinnis left Indiana, they became a losing team, and when he joined the Philadelphia 76ers, who were already a losing team, he made them a winning team. Then, as L.Kizzle mentions, when Julius Erving joined the team, they made it to the NBA Finals. McGinnis did play awful in the 1977 Finals, though, against Portland and a solid defensive middle of Bill Walton and Maurice Lucas. On the other hand, he was good when he was a member of 2 ABA championship teams and made the Finals another time.

Yet, I'm staying with Mel Daniels for this vote; without him, McGinnis wouldn't have been a professional basketball champion. In McGinnis' rookie ABA season, he joined an Indiana Pacers team that had already won an ABA championship and been to the Finals twice and that had already had season records of 59-25 and 58-26 (considerably better than the regular-season records they had with McGinnis). Moreover, the Philadelphia 76ers did go on to win an NBA championship and were otherwise consistent winners without McGinnis. McGinnis also seems to have had a negative effect on the Denver Nuggets.

I also feel inclined to vote for Bob Davies. We're almost done with this list, and he definetly deserves a spot. He was easily the second best point guard in the NBA after Bob Cousy during his time.

I'd maybe also finish this list out with these players:
Jim Pollard and Vern Mikkelson, who co-starred with George Mikan on the first NBA dynasty, the Minneapolis Lakers.

Tommy Heinsohn, an oft neglected, but important component of the Russell-led Celtics dynasty.

Maybe one of the two or both Maurice Cheeks and Bobby Jones, who were important when the 76ers won and were competing for an NBA championship. Both were not huge scorers, but they were especially great defenders.

Quite a few other players would have good arguments. Looking at L.Kizzle's "Players to Consider" list, I wouldn't put Cliff Hagan, Penny Hardaway, Fat Lever, Easy Ed, Westphal, nor probably Gus Johnson and Marques Johnson on this list. There might be a few others not yet mentioned but worth considering--maybe Bob Dandridge, Jack Sikma, or Bill Laimbeer, for example.

All of this Penny Hardaway talk I think is especially undeserved. Anyone know of Ralph Sampson? I think he was better, but he probably shouldn't make this list either for similar reasons.

Anyhow, again, I vote for Mel Daniels.

basketballer4 09-24-2007 06:00 PM

Re: Official #91 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH
 
Tim Bug.



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