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loot 11-20-2007 04:12 PM

Chris Kaman thoughts
 
And let's ignore the obvious caveman jokes. What do you think about him as a NBA player?

To me, he looks like he almost has all the tools to be a top 5 center in the league for a few years. Looking at his moves on offense, he seems to be one of the few centers who has a huge array of moves in the post combined with a very very nice midrange shot. Great form on his shot and good release. He can bury jumpers like few centers. He's also pretty good on the defensive end, good insticts, good help defender and he can't be backed up easy.

I've never been a fan of his, as a Clippers fan, but he's looking waaaaaaay better than I'd ever believe he would. The major thing? Focus, he still drifts off quite a lot, but his head is in the game. He's stepping up in a huge way and somehow he seems pretty focused.

Could he be become a Big Z with better defense?

Chuck Thou NBA 11-20-2007 04:14 PM

Re: Chris Kaman thoughts
 
He's ok. Not as far as top 5 center but somewhere up there. Good big men are hard to come by.

loot 11-20-2007 04:18 PM

Re: Chris Kaman thoughts
 
With focus? He's top 5. Can you name 5 other centers who are as good on offense and defense combined?

Ming
Amare
Camby
Dwight


Not counting Gasol, Duncan, Boozer, Bosh.

Maybe Okafor has a case. Do we count JO as a C?

Mikaiel 11-20-2007 04:18 PM

Re: Chris Kaman thoughts
 
I love Kaman. He's great in the low post and he can finish equally well with both hands, although it's weird, it seems he prefers finishing with his left hand, although he's right-handed.

Anyway I didn't watch much of him before this season but did he always have a midrange J ? I was really surprised to see him take and make those shots

loot 11-20-2007 04:23 PM

Re: Chris Kaman thoughts
 
Yeah I forgot to mention he's ambidextrous. He's always had some range, to about 12-15 feet....

luigi>mario 11-20-2007 04:28 PM

Re: Chris Kaman thoughts
 
I thought his D was weak.

loot 11-20-2007 04:31 PM

Re: Chris Kaman thoughts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luigi>mario
I thought his D was weak.

I am looking forward to LA not messing around with Brown for a while and just going with Kaman/Bynum.


:wtf:

gts 11-20-2007 04:33 PM

Re: Chris Kaman thoughts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luigi>mario
I thought his D was weak.

I am looking forward to LA not messing around with Brown for a while and just going with Kaman/Bynum.

ok you just keeping waiting on that tandum, i tell you unless a trade goes down it will never work out...lol

A Roc 23 11-20-2007 04:36 PM

Re: Chris Kaman thoughts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by loot
And let's ignore the obvious caveman jokes.


Impossible.



It's so easy a Chris Kaman could do it.

But really, I am impressed. I've seen 3 Clipper games this year and Chris was a huge part of their offense in all 3. Definately not something most of us would have predicted. He looked very impressive backing down the Chicago defenders in the paint and using both hands to hit difficult hook layups. His offense was 5 times better then it was last year. His shot looks good, his coordination looks great and his sense of his defender's position is amazing. Definately a top 10 center.

SRZ66 11-20-2007 04:46 PM

Re: Chris Kaman thoughts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by loot
With focus? He's top 5. Can you name 5 other centers who are as good on offense and defense combined?

Ming
Amare
Camby
Dwight


Not counting Gasol, Duncan, Boozer, Bosh.

Maybe Okafor has a case. Do we count JO as a C?

al jefferson

John Starks 11-20-2007 05:01 PM

Re: Chris Kaman thoughts
 
He looks like a typical big white stiff -- but he is most certainly not. Not that he is fluid or specifically balanced, but he is at least rhythmic and he's also crazy intense.

BWSes (and big men in general) are so overcome by their size in everyday life that they become gentle -- Kaman looks ready to kill.

I don't know about the D, but on offensehe has moves he has a shot and he has confidence. I like Kaman. His upside is around Kevin Willis.

Qwyjibo 11-20-2007 05:03 PM

Re: Chris Kaman thoughts
 
Quote:

I like Kaman. His upside is around Kevin Willis.
Yea but Kevin Willis is black. Please provide a racially accurate comparison... geez.

luigi>mario 11-20-2007 05:06 PM

Re: Chris Kaman thoughts
 
:oldlol: :hammerhead:

I totally mixed up Kaman with Mihm.

RidonKs 11-20-2007 05:09 PM

Re: Chris Kaman thoughts
 
I've been saying for so long that I thought he'd be an allstar within the next few years, voted in by the coaches after Ming. That was when I was still under the impression that Amare was a forward of course.

Really though, I've been impressed since his rookie year, and I was just waiting for him to break out. Last year was a major disappointment, because he's got all the tools. One of the reasons he's one of my favourite players, because he's really got it all. As has been mentioned, he's always had amazing touch with either hand around the basket. Very controlled in the post, rarely throwing up anything wild. He can go with a power game, but he's also quick off his feet, and he can hit the little jumper. Rebounding and shotblocking have always been there for him.

I'm glad he's finally getting a chance to show off his skillset as the number one option in the post, although it does suck that it had to come at the expense of Brand. I've been waiting for him to prove everyone wrong about his new contract. Nice to see him put in the work to do it.

John Starks 11-20-2007 05:11 PM

Re: Chris Kaman thoughts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwyjibo
Yea but Kevin Willis is black. Please provide a racially accurate comparison... geez.


His game is not like willis' - no hook - but in terms of a 2nd tier center who can give you offense and rebounding and match the top tier head ot head that level of career he can reach.

His game is most like somewhere between McHale and Rasho.


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