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RainierBeachPoet 06-16-2008 05:43 PM

sonics vs the city of seattle trial
 
sonics vs city of seattle: drama from the first day june 16 in the am

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/basket...tle_trial.html

this is going to be one ugly airing out

bad for everyone-- especially the nba

i am going to get the popcorn and the scotch

RainierBeachPoet 06-17-2008 02:56 PM

Re: sonics vs the city of seattle trial
 
day 2

the drama continues

bennett admits on the stand that he knew that the lease was a money loser. this is to the advantage of the city:banana:

follow the action at a blog that is updated at each step:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91810

The Italian 06-19-2008 02:14 AM

Re: sonics vs the city of seattle trial
 
How long is this trial supposed to go on for?

The Sonics better stay in Seattle. If I am ever able to watch a game Seattle is the only place that is close to where I live. I hope they stay.

RainierBeachPoet 06-19-2008 02:53 PM

Re: sonics vs the city of seattle trial
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Italian
How long is this trial supposed to go on for?

The Sonics better stay in Seattle. If I am ever able to watch a game Seattle is the only place that is close to where I live. I hope they stay.


it ends tomorrow i believe; verdict next week

RainierBeachPoet 06-19-2008 02:54 PM

Re: sonics vs the city of seattle trial
 
from day three:



"It's difficult for me to be here, can't go to games. I'm not a real popular guy here."

uhhh yeah clay you fu(king dipsh!t



there are other gems:




Clay Bennett expressed regret that he did not get an arena in Seattle and his vision for the Sonics didn't succeed here. PBC lawyer Brad Keller allowed Bennett to point out the positives of relocations and the negatives and pitfalls of being a lame-duck team for two seasons in Seattle.
Here are some key points:


*Bennett said a study showed that the Sonics would make $7 million in year one in OKC and $10 million in year two.
When asked why the team would flourish at a rebuilt arena in Oklahoma, Bennett pointed out:
*Closeness to the court and premium seating is prime real estate
*New courtside suite product that has been developed at new arenas that would occur in OKC
*The new arena would "extract higher revenue that I had been referring to."
*More amenities in the (new) building
*Funding mechanisms in the construction of the building
*The OKC team would have "support of the community, the Hornets enjoyed sellout crowds and wildly enthusiastic support."


Why he needs to leave Seattle now? Bennett said:

*NBA is a highly competitive league
*Free agency -- "Players can choose where they want to play and we are in uncertainty and that is a very difficult element into developing a team. Want to know where their families are going to be, where they are going to practice, where their kids are going to go to school."
*Bennett said he has had very important talent in the organization leave because of the uncertainty
*Bennett wondered, "How do we market this team? How do we attract sponsors for this team for two years?"
*He adds that sponsorship is so competitive could be worth as much as $20 million
Bennett then adds: "It's difficult for me to be here, can't go to games. I'm not a real popular guy here."
"We bought this team with grand visions for success and did weeverything right? No we didn't. Did we understand everything there was to understand? We did not. ... I believed in the bottom of my heart we would succeed and I am disappointed we did not."
The defense finishes with its questioning of Bennett and the city is now cross-examining

RainierBeachPoet 06-19-2008 02:55 PM

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and day four:

here is some of the testimony:

In talking with city attorney Jeffrey Johnson, noted economist Lon Hatamiya who said the Sonics have an average economic impact of $187,842,290 on the Puget Sound area Hatamiya uses multipliers, meaning that money is spent by the fan to a consumer and then spent again and again.


"I took a very conservative approach, taking only half of the players salaries into the economy," he tells Johnson,


In his study, Hatamiya considered the:
*Seattle metropolitan area King and Snohomish counties
*Contributions the Sonics players, fans etc. make to the economy, not only the expenditures
*Once the dollar is spent it multiplies many times over
Hatamiya also added:
*The Sonics support 1,200 to 1,300 full- and part-time times per year
*The Sonics expenditures create jobs


In his study, Hatamita said the Sonics have generated the following "Additional Household Income for Seattle"

2003 $25,605,592
2004 $25,890,767
2005 $26.290,305
2006 $25,330,701

2007 $25,994,647


Hatamiya said in Clay Bennett's "Sonics Relocation Proposal" that he presented to the state legislature in Oklahoma, he used the same multipliers as Hatamiya used
*Bennett said the total annual economic impact for a new team in Oklahoma would be $171,737,588
When asked where the Seattle Sonics dollar will go if the Sonics leave, "It may go away, there's no certainty that money will be continued to spent. Much of that impact will shift to Oklahoma City."


Johnson finished questioning



more at: http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/sonicstrial/

JellyBean 06-26-2008 06:12 PM

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I thought that they were going to wrap everything up this week. How are things looking?

$14.98 06-27-2008 01:42 PM

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I don't watch TV. Please someone post a link of the verdict! I am so anxious.

Ian 06-28-2008 03:41 PM

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I believe the judge announces the verdict next week.

I'll be surprised if it moves. I mean...OK City? Come on..

sbuxsux 06-28-2008 09:17 PM

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Thanks RBP for keeping folks up to date on the trial! The rally was a huge success - an estimated 2500-3500 people were there, along with GP, Xman and Spencer Hawes.

SOME ARTICLES:
3,000 rally loud and proud to keep Sonics in Seattle:
Sonics greats Payton, McDaniel address throng at courthouse
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/basket...6_rally17.html

And, we're finally getting more coverage by national news:

Sonics' future in Seattle to be decided in court this week
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3445034

Seattle fans not yet giving up on Sonics
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8...g-up-on-Sonics


YOUTUBE:
Check out YouTube - there's a bunch of "Sonics Rally" videos on there. Here's a sampling:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPclpWvvo-Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAp2OLQYVfI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS3SRiEmllw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmNeMwp_wLg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsEz_z1S9C8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naNW5nkMlSc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCYpEdanBME

Great slide show:
"Save Our Sonics - Rally @ the Courthouse"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPclpWvvo-Y


TRIAL:
Verdict will be read at 4pm on Wed July 2.

Info on the trial can be read on the US Dist Court's website at:

http://www.wawd.uscourts.gov/SonicsCase01.htm

From the Public Info PDF on the Court's website, here's a good, to-the-point summary of the heart of the case:
2. Summary of Case # C071620MJP, City of Seattle v. Professional Basketball Club LLC - - - - - The City of Seattle ("the City") has sued the Professional Basketball Club, LLC ("PBC"), in an effort to enforce the terms of a lease that requires the Seattle Supersonics to play all of its home games at KeyArena through the 20092010 NBA season. The City seeks the remedy of specific performance rather than money damages from this Court, and is asking this Court to enter a declaratory judgment ordering the Supersonics to play at
KeyArena for the next two NBA seasons. PBC responds by arguing that the facts and circumstances of this case do not justify specific performance, and seeks to pay its financial obligations to the City under the lease and thereafter be released from it.

SAVEOURSONICS!!!
Also, SonicsCentral, the blog for SaveOurSonics has up to date discussions about the trial, the draft and other issues about the team.

http://www.sonicscentral.com

$14.98 06-29-2008 01:47 AM

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The official date of the verdict is:

Wednesday July 2, 2008 at 4 pm PAC time.

We shall see...we shall see...

RainierBeachPoet 06-29-2008 08:10 PM

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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qV4QLK...eature=related

(thanks 14.98)

RainierBeachPoet 07-02-2008 08:19 PM

Re: sonics vs the city of seattle trial
 
here ya go:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93914

RainierBeachPoet 07-02-2008 11:15 PM

Re: sonics vs the city of seattle trial
 
they settled...

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94277

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...=1#post1991610


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