Join Date: Jun 2006
Frazier gone cause of Marbury?
F*** Marbury,Dolan,and Thomas. Theyre ruining the knicks. This has to stop.
This aint even funny anymore. I am not tuning in to anymore games this season, nor am i buying anything associated with knicks/msg/cablevision.
The reactionary nature of Madison Square Gulag suits has me wondering whether Walt (Clyde) Frazier will make it through the 2006-07 season.
Say what? How could any MSG suit even think of dumping - or dumping on - the Knicks' living legend? Well, in the world of James Dolan, Isiah Thomas and (Silent) Steve Mills, anything is possible.
Especially when it involves their fearless leader Stephon Marbury. Anyone in the organization who crosses him, or dares criticize him, is in for trouble.
Just ask Larry Brown.
There is a situation between Frazier and Marbury that has been flying under the radar, probably because not many people tune in to the MSG Network. Let's go back to July 8, when MSG aired a summer league game between the Knicks and Suns.
During this meaningless exercise, Marbury, who came to Las Vegas to "support" his team, joined Frazier and Gus Johnson at the broadcast table. Marbury must have thrilled Knicks fans when he proclaimed: "I don't have anything to prove to anyone. The only person I'm competing against is myself." I'm sure all NBA players also breathed a sigh of relief after hearing that.
Marbury, in an introspective mood, went on to alert viewers that he "became a man" during his public feud with Brown. "I was pro-active," Marbury said. "Somebody told me I went from Gandhi to Malcolm X."
This vivid imagery reflected the self-absorbed path Marbury was driving on. Perhaps sensing that, and not wanting the interview to degenerate any further, Frazier challenged Marbury. Clyde made an excellent point that needed to be made. He reminded Marbury that Brown had put the same kind of verbal heat on Chauncey Billups and Allen Iverson.
"(Brown) always tested guys," Frazier told Marbury. "That's what he was looking for. He wanted to see what you were able to come up with to be a man, to handle it."
Marbury developed a sudden case of amnesia.
"No, I'm not giving (Brown) that much credit," Marbury said. "I'm sorry, Clyde."
Instead of letting Marbury off the hook, Frazier dug in.
"Then where did (the motivation to become a man) come from?" Frazier, his voice raising, asked. "If (Brown) didn't do it...."
Marbury cut off Frazier. "No, I'm not giving (Brown) that much credit," Marbury said. "And I'm not even supposed to be talking about it. He doesn't get that much credit."
Sensing this confrontation could escalate, Johnson sounded relieved to go to commercial. Still, what viewers had witnessed was Marbury contradicting himself. Before Frazier even mentioned Brown, Marbury admitted the feud had helped make him a "man." But when Frazier said Brown had used tough love as a motivating force before, Marbury didn't want to hear it.
We already know Marbury does not like to be challenged or confronted, especially by Knicks broadcasters he knows he can control through Thomas and Dolan. Last season, Marbury confronted a couple of Knicks voices, who he believed had criticized him, and launched into an obscenity-laced spiel. Instead of chastising Marbury for his churlish behavior, Gulag suits ignored it. They simply looked the other way.
Make no mistake, under the current Gulag regime - especially with a desperate Thomas now coaching the Knicks - Marbury is going to have his way. If Marbury had any problems with Frazier's line of questioning, he likely has already alerted Thomas.
And if Marbury ever wanted Clyde out, there is no doubt in my mind Dolan and Thomas would grant him his wish.
For only in Bizzaro Knicks World would the suits jettison Frazier, a Knicks icon - a Hall of Famer - for telling the truth.
Marbury is a cancer. If hes so great, how come nobody wants him? First, Thomas gets traded, then LB fired and now Frazier. Who does he think he is??