Jordan stans this is your last year at number 1

[3ball]

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[COLOR="DarkRed"]Jordan was a far better jumpshooter than Curry from midrange and inside 20 feet, on 6 times the volume:[/COLOR]



Links to NBA.com "midrange %" stats (all shots inside the 3-point line but outside the paint)

JORDAN 1997:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 48.9%, 1202 fga

S Curry 2015:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 41.1%,[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 285 fga
S Curry 2016:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 42.5%,[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 200 fga

[COLOR="White"]........................[/COLOR]MJ 1997[COLOR="White"]...................[/COLOR]Curry 2015[COLOR="White"]............ [/COLOR]Curry 2016 [COLOR="DarkGreen"]<--- link to nba.com data[/COLOR]

5-9 ft.......... 49.2%, 126 fga........... 40.3%, 72 fga.......... 48.6%, 72 fga

10-14 ft....... 51.5%, 466 fga........... 52.9%, 85 fga.......... 50.9%, 57 fga

15-19 ft....... 49.5%, 594 fga........... 43.9%, 132 fga........ 37.3%, 102 fga



Interestingly, Curry's goat 3-point shooting and Jordan's goat midrange shooting isn't needed to be a top scorer in today's game - Lebron, Westbrook, Wade, Derozan and Butler have poor midrange and 3-point, yet they're still top scorers because today's wide open spacing and hands-off defense allows athletic players easier access to the rim.

MJ's athleticism would benefit the same way, except he had the goat midrange efficiency shown above, which would put him in Curry's category as a goat shooter, and gave him a similarly massive advantage over the aforementioned non-shooters Lebron, Westbrick and company.
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[diamenz]

26/6/6 on 60 TS% while facing double teams all series

now i know why you take espn and bleacher reports word for gospel

because u dont know shit about basketball

you're right i suppose, his performances just haven't been up to par with what we're used to seeing from him. i wanna see him go ham.

your jordan comparisons are ridic though, especially at this point.

[bukowski81]

26/6/6 on 60 TS% while facing double teams all series

now i know why you take espn and bleacher reports word for gospel

because u dont know shit about basketball

Good numbers, but you are delusional if you think thats a threat to Jordan

[warriorfan]

Good numbers, but you are delusional if you think thats a threat to Jordan

if you are autistic and just look at numbers in black and white comparisons

true basketball minds know there is much more context behind the statistics that tell the whole story

you are going to need better arguments than this

[3ball]

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Jordan was involved in MORE possessions for his team (usage), while producing more per-possession (ORtg) - he simply DID MORE:

1991 vs. 2016:

[COLOR="DarkRed"]JORDAN REG SEASON[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 32.9% Usage.. 125 ORtg
[COLOR="Navy"]CURRY[COLOR="White"]4[/COLOR] REG SEASON[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 32.6% Usage.. 125 ORtg

Career

[COLOR="DarkRed"]JORDAN REG SEASON[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 33.3% Usage.. 118 ORtg
[COLOR="Navy"]CURRY[COLOR="White"]4[/COLOR] REG SEASON[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 26.9% Usage.. 117 ORtg

[COLOR="DarkRed"]JORDAN PLAYOFF[/COLOR]S:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 35.6% Usage.. 118 ORtg
[COLOR="Navy"]CURRY[COLOR="White"]4[/COLOR] PLAYOFFS[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 28.2% Usage.. 115 ORtg

Jordan gave his team MORE (possessions) of a GOOD THING (per possession efficiency)...
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[3ball]

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Jordan's 1991 was on another level:

Per 100 Possessions

[COLOR="DarkRed"]JORDAN 1991 RS:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 42.7 pts.. 8.1 reb..[COLOR="White"]4[/COLOR] 7.5 ast.. 3.3 tov.. 3.7 stl.. 1.4 blk.. 60.4 ts.. 125 ORtg.. 31.6 PER.. 0.321 WS/48[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Navy"]CURRY [COLOR="White"]4[/COLOR] 2016 RS:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 42.5 pts.. 7.7 reb..[COLOR="White"]4[/COLOR] 9.4 ast.. 4.7 tov.. 3.0 stl.. 0.3 blk.. 66.9 ts.. 125 ORtg.. 31.5 PER.. 0.318 WS/48[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Red"]JORDAN 1991 PO:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 41.8 pts.. 8.5 reb.. 11.2 ast.. 3.4 tov.. 3.2 stl.. 1.8 blk.. 60.0 ts.. 127 ORtg.. 32.0 PER.. 0.333 WS/48[/COLOR]

Jordan produced more points-per-possession (ORtg) and Player Efficiency Rating, even though Curry's efficiency was boosted by carrying a smaller load: Jordan produced a higher proportion of his team's points and assists with less turnovers, while also carrying a larger load on defense.. Jordan is FAR better than Curry's fragile ass.

Ultimately, Jordan achieved the highest honor (winning championship and FMVP), while carrying a bigger load on both ends at higher efficiency per possession - that covers all the bases.
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[3ball]

[COLOR="Red"]Curry spaces the floor[/COLOR]

Jordan's spaces the floor more - when a dangerous rim attacker is on the floor, ALL defenders must cheat off their man (see Isiah Thomas above), which leaves 3-point shooters and other teammates more open than otherwise.. This is basketball 101.

Otoh, 3-point shooters only cause a single defender to hug them on the perimeter, which doesn't do shit BY ITSELF - it takes the entire Warrior team shooting 3-pointers TOGETHER to provide floor-spacing.

Essentially, 3-point shooters need teammates to help them space the floor, whereas a single rim attacker frees up teammates for open shots all by themselves, by forcing the entire defense to cheat off their man.

[3ball]

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Summary of Jordan and Curry's offense:


Jordan made up for his inferior 3-point efficiency compared to Curry with far superior midrange efficiency, and far less turnovers.. These things gave him superior per [COLOR="darkred"]possession[/COLOR] efficiency (ortg), which is more important than Curry's shooting efficiency - shooting efficiency FALLS UNDER THE UMBRELLA of per-possession efficiency.

Jordan's higher efficiency is remarkable considering he carried a bigger load: he produced a higher proportion of his team's points and assists with far less turnovers, while also carrying a bigger load on defense.

Jordan had higher efficiency per possession and carried a bigger load even though Curry enjoys an offense-friendly era due to spacing and hands-off defense - Curry achieves his stats with teammates spacing the floor (Warriors attempt 30 threes per game), while MJ achieved his stats without teammates spacing the floor (Bulls attempted 5 threes per game in 1991).. Obviously, Jordan's stats would explode with today's spacing and hands-off defense.

Consider that Lebron's 3-point percentage is 31.9% in playoffs, and his midrange percentage is below 40% for 10 of 13 seasons.. Westbrook, Wade, Derozan, & Butler have similarly poor jumpshot efficiency, yet they remain top scorers because today's wide open spacing and hands-off defense allows easier rim access.. MJ would get the same rim access, except he could also live off his midrange jumpshot, since it's efficiency was better than Curry's, and since the today's spacing forces defenses to give up midrange.
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[MP.Trey]

if you are autistic and just look at numbers in black and white comparisons

true basketball minds know there is much more context behind the statistics that tell the whole story

you are going to need better arguments than this

Exactly what I was thinking. You need to look at the context of those numbers and you'll realize Curry really had a minimal output compared to what we usually see from him, much less from MJ, and everybody saw it, Curry was not playing like the best player on the court last year and he sure as hell isn't now.

[warriorfan]

Exactly what I was thinking. You need to look at the context of those numbers and you'll realize Curry really had a minimal output compared to what we usually see from him, much less from MJ, and everybody saw it, Curry was not playing like the best player on the court last year and he sure as hell isn't now.

You dont know shit about basketball

It's obvious you are trolling now

Welcome to ignore

P.S. the MCL is healing, the 3 peat is coming

tick tock

[3ball]

tick tock

This was Curry's first REGULAR season as the NBA's best offensive player (9 more in a row to match Jordan) - and he's NEVER been the best offensive player in the playoffs like Jordan was every... single... year...

Jordan is the only all-time great to lead his team in scoring for every playoff series of his career, and he did it by an average of 15.4 ppg (let that sink in).. And don't forget - Jordan led the Bulls in passing too - he led the Bulls in assist percentage for both 3-peats.

Accordingly, his goat scoring load, team-leading passing, and best-ever defense at his position is the goat performance and biggest overall burden ever - Curry's performance is a joke by comparison..

[kamil]

He already passed Kobe Nikka..

When did that happen?

[bukowski81]

if you are autistic and just look at numbers in black and white comparisons

true basketball minds know there is much more context behind the statistics that tell the whole story

you are going to need better arguments than this

Please enlighten us in what context is Curry better than MJ

[Keno]

I agree with op, a 3rd finals MVP and ring for Lebron to add to the goat resume. Jordan is shaking in his boots hoping gsw wins.

[3ball]