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Old 05-19-2008, 07:18 PM   #13
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Default Re: Would you trade Melo and for who?

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Originally Posted by Mile High Crew
Atlanta may have a bad record, but have you seen them play #1 seeded Boston? Atlanta pushed all the way for the game seven, even though they got blown out, Atlanta stuck around and the reason is because they played like a team, Mike Bibby and Smith didn't do all the work, they all chipped in to force the full round.

Are you kidding me? Joe Johnson, Mike Bibby, and Josh Smith basically lead the team in their 3 wins at home, without those three, no way in hell do the C's lose to them. The one guy that should've and did step up big time was Mike Bibby, who was struggling in the regular season with Atlanta.
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Philly also did what they were suppose to and had Detroit panicking for a while in the series.
That's because Detroit took them for granted because of their record and weren't playing with any sense of urgency like they have been recently. Philly played great in their 2 wins and I'm not trying to take anything away from them, but had they been playing against a more focused and motivated Detroit team early on then they would've gotten swept. Just look at Rasheed in game 1, when they were down by 2-3 points, he was out there laughing and fooling around by going into Phillies own huddle right before missing a lay-up that could've cut the lead down to 1. The only game Detroit struggled was in the 3rd, after that it was all Detroit, by 10-15 point blowouts.
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There is no doubt Philly is going to keep Igoudala and Miller unless they can get better players than those two.
On Iguodala:
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The October 31st deadline is looming and ‘Iggy’, for some reason, is waiting on an extension. Here’s why:
Philadelphia is saving cap space for the summer. Come July, Chris Webber’s inflated contract finally comes off the books and Aaron Mckie’s deal also expires. The 76ers will be $30 million dollars under the cap and aren’t ready to compromise their newfound flexibility on Iguodala’s extension.
Basketball is no longer a priority for Comcast, the cable conglomerate that owns the 76ers. Fans have stayed away; rumors are flying that Comcast still wants out of the NBA. A big contract, like Iguodala’s extension, makes the team less attractive to potential buyers.
If a team comes and offers Iguodala something crazy like 5 years, $75 million, then he is as good as gone...so much for "keeping him without a doubt" huh?

On Miller:

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Ed Stefanski doesn't see extending veteran Andre Miller's contract as a priority. Stefanski raised the idea several months ago of extending Miller, but both sides have to want it for that to happen. Based on Miller's statements after the Pistons eliminated the Sixers, there's some doubt if Miller sees himself here beyond 2008-09. Miller responded to a question about his interest in a possible extension by saying, “I don't know. It's hard to tell right now.”
The 32-year-old Miller also said that he thinks he'll “probably be gone” by the time the Sixers' younger players are ready to take the team to the next level
It's obvious that he isn't interested in playing for this team anymore, he even said it himself, there you go.

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Originally Posted by Mile High Crew
The Eastern Conference is what it is and you can't compare the two conferences because the West is loaded, but we are talking about playing as a team and not for individual efforts. Melo plays for individual effort at times by shooting the ball when not needed, just to get his points up to double digits or whatever.

What else do you expect from Melo? he is their franchise player and is implemented into their style to score mainly and take most of the shots..why? because the guy can make those shots that's why(49.2% in regulations). I don't understand why you only call Melo a ball hog, when you have AI out there who takes, if not more, about the same shot attempts as Melo does through-out the season, but makes them at a fewer percentage than him. Where is the same outrage for AI?

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Originally Posted by Mile High Crew
You must be kidding me about Melo getting better year by year. If he was getting better year by year then explain to me why he hasn't stepped up to become a leader for this Nuggets team? He ain't a rookie anymore, he is a proven veteran who needs to step up towards the plate and take responsibility for the teams faults in their losses. During the playoff series against the Lakers he was blaming a lot on the coaches. As a veteran athlete you need to assume full responsibility and play because you're the one out on the court not the coaches. If your getting credit for the teams positives then you need to also get credit for the teams negatives.
He hasn't improved at all then? go look at his stats then because while he may be scoring a little less than last year, which is expected with AI on the same team, he has improved in his assists, rebounding, 3-pt, fg %, and steals per game. Even though I agree that Melo needs to step his game up defensively, it's not fair for him to take fully blame of the teams failure. You need to realize that their are 4 other players out there on the court who have the same responsibility as Melo does. For you to nitpick and blame just one guy is stupid. We can all agree that in the series vs L.A. guys like AI, J.R., Kleiza, and Najera were the only ones who showed up, so what the hell happened to rest of the cast, aside from Melo? wheres the blame for them?

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Originally Posted by Mile High Crew
And what is up with you guys complaining about George Karl? He may not have been the Furious George like before and doesn't seem to do anything about teams weaknesses, but he is going to be here no matter what. No coach can get Melo playing defense. Playing defense is a want for many players and feel like they don't need it and Melo is one of them. There needs to be a need to play defense and once you have that need in place then you are set to play some ball!

Keep commenting, I'm ready for whatever you throw at me!
Are you saying that coaches have no effect on wether their players play or improve their defensive abilities? because that is the biggest bullsh*t ever.
Fat ass Karl is such a lazy coach that he probably doesn't even expend his time/energy yelling and preaching defense to this team anymore. I mean, what else do you expect from a coach, who makes deals with their players, by giving them off days on what should be valuable practice days, when they reach certain goals in each games. He'd rather be fishing or chewing on that same coughdrop 82 games in a row than coaching.

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Originally Posted by Mile High Crew
I've always like George Karl, but the reason why he can't do much with this team is because of the players. Melo, J.R., K-Mart, and A.I. have troubles listening to their coaches and won't change no matter what you do to them. G.K. is just trying to keep his composure and not lose his mind with his team. I think G.K. is trying to bring this team back where it suppose to be and leave when he knows when the time is right.
Yeah, their you go again, George is the saint and it's all the players fault. Let me ask you this, you seem to think that it's not Karls fault that his players aren't committed to playing defense, well then tell me this, how the hell are you going to play defense when your gameplan is to RUN! RUN! RUN! There are 3 teams in the league that successfully play with the same style and at a high pace: Phoenix, Goldenstate, and of course Denver. Why are they such bad defensive teams? is it because the players are all incapable of playing defense or is because they are not committed to playing defense? or is it because after running back and forth for 30-42 mins, they just don't have the energy to do so? It's not a coincidence, that while all three teams play great offensively, they all struggle defensively because of their style and the pace in which they all play at. No way can a team play great defense while at the same time, be able to score 110-120 points per game. I'd like to see you have to run back and forth meanwhile at the same time play superb defense day in and out, sorry it just won't happen because your legs will be dead by then. I really believe that the only way Denver can play successful defense on a consistant basis at their pace is to either change their style of play by getting rid of that fat ********* or slow the game down, Ex. Phoenix, with Shaq, until then teams that play like Phoenix, Denver, and Goldenstate are going to continue to struggle defensively.
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