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Old 01-08-2012, 07:38 PM   #37
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Default Re: The secret to gaining VERTICAL

Originally Posted by pauk
look at the best vertical jumpers in the world... the olympic high jumpers..... none of them have hulk upper body... infact they want to be as light-skinny-ripped as possible.... a human at any weight is more than enough to be propelled thru the gravity at any rate.... the less weight = the more vertical.... so much upperbody weight will only actually make it harder/impossible to get as high up as you could with LESS weight....

there is no SECRET....

its all about:

1. genetics (fast twitch ligaments)
2. plyometrics/jumping & jumping & jumping & jumping & jumping (trying to enhance those fast twitch ligaments)

doing weights WONT HELP YOU... im sorry... unless you can find some weight that can make your ligaments bigger....

notice i said LIGAMENTS... not MUSCLES.... getting stronger/more muscles wont help you.... its only a fantasy...

EVERYBODY knows this..... but they try so desperately to not lose hope of their dreams......... and try to imagine there is some "secret" way of getting higher vertical....

Look.... you can only workout to your genetical potential to bring out as much vertical as you GENETICALLY can... and that workout is simple... Running / Plyometrics (Jumping)...

There are no such thing as fast twitch ligaments. Muscles are fast twitch(Type IIa or Type IIx) or slow twitch(Type I). The motor neurons are also fast twitch or slow twitch. Studies have shown that hooking up a fast twitch motor neurons to a slow twitch muscle makes the slow twitch muscle act more fast twitch which COULD indicate that what type of neuron is connected matters more then the muscle.

Also, what you didn't mention with in the following post is that stefan holm does step ups with 400lbs. And even though he can jump and amazing height off one foot, his two foot vertical is barely 2 feet. And stefan holm has a strong tendon which came from lifting. Donald Thomas is another high jumper who jumps high because of his long achilles tendon. Long and stiff tendons are ideal, but stefan holm has a relatively normal sized achilles.

I see what you're trying to say, but to say weights don't help is false. It is an individual thing, but I'd say 90+% of athletes should be lifting.

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