Originally Posted by RaininThrees
1) Has anyone ever argued that taking guns away is going to eliminate all crime?
2) Did the violent crime rate go up or down after the ban of guns?
I honestly don't know here, but your point is meaningless without context. If the UK's violent crime rate was 2x higher than the US's pre-game ban and is 1.5x higher now, that means the ban had an effect, and the UK could have been a more violent country in general all along.
I would love for this guns apologists to come up with stats of how many crimes are stopped by gun owners. Seriously, can someone post a link to some study on how many women weren't raped because they had a gun?
afaik criminals aren't all-seeing, afaik the only way they know someone have a gun is when they are pulled on them, so where's the stats of criminals being killed or just shot with guns?
I find it odd that ZERO information is given backing up the number 1 argument of the guns apologists, but someone they cant' stop bark on how crime is high in places with gun bans