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Old 03-26-2013, 07:37 PM   #107
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Default Re: "Proof of Heaven" - best selling book by athiest neurosurgeon that had an NDE




^^^ see that is something like most NDEers describe it...that there are multiple levels

apparently the "astral" plane can be achieved without an NDE by some (maybe that is what those drugs are capable of doing)...they can OBE and travel about without their body.

above that an NDE is needed, or just death...(actually a rebirth)
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