Michael Jordan Game Winning Shots (article)

[andgar923]

Tell em why you mad Kobe fans....

Bryant is 6/23 (26.1%).

[BEAST Griffin]

http://chasing23.com/the-myth-of-playoff-kobe/

A guy in the comments is right. This whole "closer" etc. talk about Kobe in recent years just started because he has not been the best player in the game. The hype machine needed oil.

[BEAST Griffin]

jordan has attempted 58 GW shots, kobe 118, wtf?
they have played the same amount of games almaost and kobes has 2X more, somethings weird about that

Kobe is a ball hog in those situations, that's why. He'll chuck over two defenders rather than pass to an open teammate or make a smart play.

[Colby Brian]

Damn Jordan killed Kobe in every stat haha, Jordan is a motha fukka

yep he did

[DMAVS41]

Are you people really this dense?

Its only in the playoffs. It makes perfect sense. Kobe only has attempted 7 more.

16 for Jordan's career in the playoffs makes perfect sense.

[Colby Brian]

Kobe is a ball hog in those situations, that's why. He'll chuck over two defenders rather than pass to an open teammate or make a smart play.

ok sure, but 2X more really, really?

[DMAVS41]

ok sure, but 2X more really, really?

I don't think those are all confirmed as the total.

However, this just shows how reckless Kobe is late in games. Maybe this is why the Lakers offense goes from 1st overall to 12the overall in these situations.

But the playoffs are where it matters most of course.

And 6/23 vs 9/16 is not a good look for old Kobe.

[Micku]

This is only the playoffs game winners, so it makes sense.

And Jordan did pass in a few potential game winners. But what's up with having two game winners in the same game?

Neglecting the potential game winner (lol), he is 8/15 53%.

[DMAVS41]

This is only the playoffs game winners, so it makes sense.

And Jordan did pass in a few potential game winners. But what's up with having two game winners in the same game?

Neglecting the potential game winner (lol), he is 8/15 53%.

That is how the stats are done. If you removed shots that tied a game or didn't officially win the game, Kobe would only have 4 makes for his career in the playoffs.

Its just how the stats are done. Its any shot in the last possession to take the lead or tie a game. That way you get a larger and more accurate sample size.

[Harison]

I dont see much problem with 16 shots, because author used heavy filtering: only Playoffs, max 24 secs, no FTs. Also Bulls often blowout opponents, thus less chances for "hero mode".

[Lucifer]

who cares? lets talk about the conference finals.

[imlmf]

are we trying to convince kobe stans with factual stats that jordan beats kobe yet again? nice try but they're in denial with kobe's pen!s in their mouths

[miller-time]

I dont see much problem with 16 shots, because author used heavy filtering: only Playoffs, max 24 secs, no FTs. Also Bulls often blowout opponents, thus less chances for "hero mode".

exactly, i keep bringing this point up, it was either the 08/09 or 09/10 season where kobe hit game winners 4 or 5 games in a row (or close together) and fans were cheering about how awesome kobe was. except they completely disregarded the fact that he was hitting game winners against teams that should have been blown out. a game winner against the t-wolves shouldn't even occur and if it does it shouldn't be lauded.

[necya]

i have 178 of his 179 playoffs games on DVD and those numbers are correct.

also, notice that MJ and the Bulls have won every series when they have got home court advantage.

[Dragonyeuw]

Perhaps the championship Bulls didn't find themselves in many situations where Jordan needed to take a ton of gamewinners??