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    Default Re: "Double teams create a 4-on-3 off the ball" - Lebron James

    brudduh I got bad news for you

    But there was one that might be bothersome, the zone defense. It was the topic du jour at last month's All-Star Game, and Jordan was making an impassioned plea before the competition committee that had gathered to consider rules changes to enliven the NBA game. Jordan spoke passionately. If teams were able to play zone defenses, he said, he never would have had the career he did
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    But there was one that might be bothersome, the zone defense. It was the topic du jour at last month's All-Star Game, and Jordan was making an impassioned plea before the competition committee that had gathered to consider rules changes to enliven the NBA game. Jordan spoke passionately. If teams were able to play zone defenses, he said, he never would have had the career he did

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    Default Re: "Double teams create a 4-on-3 off the ball" - Lebron James

    Quote Originally Posted by And1AllDay
    brudduh I got bad news for you



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    But there was one that might be bothersome, the zone defense. It was the topic du jour at last month's All-Star Game, and Jordan was making an impassioned plea before the competition committee that had gathered to consider rules changes to enliven the NBA game. Jordan spoke passionately. If teams were able to play zone defenses, he said, he never would have had the career he did

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    Default Re: "Double teams create a 4-on-3 off the ball" - Lebron James

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo Slayer

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    Default Re: "Double teams create a 4-on-3 off the ball" - Lebron James

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    Miss you bro, how are you doing?!?

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    Default Re: "Double teams create a 4-on-3 off the ball" - Lebron James

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo Slayer


    Miss you bro, how are you doing?!?
    life is good bruddah

    miss all the homies

    how are things ?

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    Default Re: "Double teams create a 4-on-3 off the ball" - Lebron James

    Quote Originally Posted by And1AllDay
    life is good bruddah

    miss all the homies

    how are things ?
    My life is good as a 14 yrs old

    BRING Im Still Ballin BACK!!!!!!!!

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    Good day to you, sir.

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    Default Re: "Double teams create a 4-on-3 off the ball" - Lebron James

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZOzilY8o14&t=01m15s

    ^^^ Lebron is talks about giving the ball to AD so AD can get doubled, and AD can't pass for shit - so passing ability has nothing to do why you'd double someone.. It's their devastation as a scorer that makes a player worth doubling..

    But carry on know-nothings..

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    Default Re: "Double teams create a 4-on-3 off the ball" - Lebron James

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZOzilY8o14&t=01m15s

    ^^^ Lebron is talks about giving the ball to AD so AD can get doubled, and AD can't pass for shit - so passing ability has nothing to do why you'd double someone.. It's their devastation as a scorer that makes a player worth doubling..

    But carry on know-nothings..
    But you don't think LeBron is a devastating scorer then? I don't get your point.

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    Default Re: "Double teams create a 4-on-3 off the ball" - Lebron James

    Quote Originally Posted by FromDowntown

    But you don't think LeBron is a devastating scorer then? I don't get your point.
    If Lebron's high PPG was devastating to teams, they wouldn't opt to play him single-coverage in monumental series like the 2009 ECF, 2015 Finals, and many other series..

    So obviously, there's something about the way he scores that causes teams to play him straight up.

    Teams actually ENCOURAGE Lebron to score by not doubling (Stan Van Gundy said they wanted the ball in Lebron's hands as much as possible in the 09' ECF, so they didn't double him)..

    It's because Lebron's scoring is the slow, lumbering kind that requires long dribble forays.. This relegates teammates to spot-up roles and ultimately allows the defense to stand and wait for Lebron - this style is easier to defend than fast ball movement that requires considerable rotations, or reacting to a quick-hitter scorer (hot jumpshooter)

    And therein lies the rub - it's his jumpshooting - defenses meet penetrators at the rim with multiple defenders and don't need to double-team them on the perimeter.. so only hot jumpshooters get doubled - i.e. if kobe makes 2-3 jumpers in a row, his team gets juiced and the Lakers win the quarter going away - so defenses double-team guys like him, MJ, or Curry if it looks like they're getting hot and the team is being elevated.

    Ultimately, Lebron's style and skillset is too basic - 1 ball-dominator and 4 shooters - this brand is easy to beat at the championship level, and similarly failed in the playoffs for guys like CP3, Nash, Westbrook and Harden.. Lebron was unique in that he team-hopped to obtain a 3rd star, so this normally-failing brand broke through and win a few chips.. But the brand still mostly loses in the championship, to many different teams...

    Btw, Nash and Harden are great shooters, so they would occasionally get doubled, but the 1-ball-dominator and 4 shooters brand will never win in the playoffs without the kind of team-hopping talent (3rd star) that Lebron had.
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    Default Re: "Double teams create a 4-on-3 off the ball" - Lebron James



    3ball is confusing

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    Default Re: "Double teams create a 4-on-3 off the ball" - Lebron James

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo Slayer


    3ball is confusing
    No, you just have poor reading comp and a short attention span, so i'll make it simpler for you:

    Lebron's skillset forces him to take a long time to score with very low points-per-touch (statistical fact)

    So opposing coaches WANT him to have the ball as much as possible, so they only have to defend slow, lumbering dribble forays rather than fast, zippy ball movement

    MJ, Curry, Kobe and Bird had the skills to get goat stats while the team had zippy ball movement - Lebron doesn't have this skill, so he must engage in long dribble forays to score, and opposing coaches LIKE this.... so they don't double Lebron and let him dribble his team right out of the series (see the 09' ECF or 15' Finals)

    was that clear enough and short enough for you?

    and yes - the 09' Cavs wouldn't be competitive in the ECF without Lebron's 38/8/8... but another star like MJ or Bird would've achieved stats with great ball movement and getting double-teamed, so the team would've performed much better and won as they were heavily-favored to do
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    Default Re: "Double teams create a 4-on-3 off the ball" - Lebron James

    Quote Originally Posted by And1AllDay
    Couple more months and DnK is back.

    Full squad gonna run things again.


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    Default Re: "Double teams create a 4-on-3 off the ball" - Lebron James



    Taco Tuesday is in 2 days.

    Waiting.

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    Default Re: "Double teams create a 4-on-3 off the ball" - Lebron James

    Quote Originally Posted by RealSkipBayless
    Couple more months and DnK is back.

    Full squad gonna run things again.



    Once he comes back, WE will dominate this weak ass NBA forum.

    Lebron haters for life: 3ball, egokiller, superduper, pickernroller, + imkobe

    Lebron stans: ISB ,Turbo Slayer, DnK, And1AllDay, Manny98, BronBron23, RealSkipBayless, and Corporation, and much more.

    We have numbers. Strength in Lebron family.

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    Default Re: "Double teams create a 4-on-3 off the ball" - Lebron James

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo Slayer


    Taco Tuesday is in 2 days.

    Waiting.
    Lebron "millions over freedom" James

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