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    Default Re: top 5 players....is Dirk still there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Free
    No. LeBron was pretty bad, he shot 36/38% from the field and never really got in the flow.
    He wasn't in the flow and he shot low from the field. He played better than Dirk, firstly. Secondly, his points, rebounds, and assists were all still there to add to it.

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    Default Re: top 5 players....is Dirk still there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Richie2k6
    He wasn't in the flow and he shot low from the field. He played better than Dirk, firstly. Secondly, his points, rebounds, and assists were all still there to add to it.

    I agree he played better than Dirk, but he was still pretty bad.

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    Default Re: top 5 players....is Dirk still there?

    I say yes but really, once you get to the top 15 or so it really comes down to who is playing best at that moment.

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    Default Re: top 5 players....is Dirk still there?

    Quote Originally Posted by -primetime-
    I think he is...

    1. Duncan
    2. Kobe
    3. Lebron
    4. Garnett
    5. Dirk

    then...

    6. Nash
    7. Wade
    8. - 10. Melo, T-Mac, Amare, Iverson, Pierce, Arenas, Yao, ect. (whatever)
    Quote Originally Posted by -primetime-
    1. LEEbron
    2. Oden
    3. Amare
    4. Howard
    5. Yao
    6. Wade
    7. Melo
    8. Durant
    9. Kobe
    10. give me Yi here....yeah I said it...YI baby
    dont see Dirk

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    Default Re: top 5 players....is Dirk still there?

    is Dirk still there?
    He was never there in the first place.

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    Default Re: top 5 players....is Dirk still there?

    I fail to see how Garnett is better than Dirk.

    I think we are all a little harsh on the big guy. He did get to the finals a year ago and lead his team to 67 wins this year. You can say he choked till the cows come home, but at least he put himself in position to choke. It is pretty tough to get a rep for choking when you are home every year for the playoffs ala KG.

    Dirk > KG

    there is really no unbiased case to be made otherwise.

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    Default Re: top 5 players....is Dirk still there?

    Duncan
    Kobe
    Lebron
    Nash
    Garnett
    Dirk
    Wade
    Shaq
    Kidd

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    Default Re: top 5 players....is Dirk still there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Richie2k6
    Tim Duncan
    Kobe Bryant
    Dwyane Wade
    Lebron James
    Kevin Garnett
    That's right.

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    Default Re: top 5 players....is Dirk still there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy Bird
    I fail to see how Garnett is better than Dirk.

    I think we are all a little harsh on the big guy. He did get to the finals a year ago and lead his team to 67 wins this year. You can say he choked till the cows come home, but at least he put himself in position to choke. It is pretty tough to get a rep for choking when you are home every year for the playoffs ala KG.

    Dirk > KG

    there is really no unbiased case to be made otherwise.
    So his team had more success so there isn't a single "case" to be made otherwise.

    Well, KG made the conference finals in 2004, while Dirk went home in the first round. Was KG "inarguably" better then as well? Or does that only apply when your player is winning?

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    Default Re: top 5 players....is Dirk still there?

    I fail to see how Garnett is better than Dirk.
    Scoring - Dirk
    Defense - Garnett
    Blocking - Garnett
    Stealing - Garnett
    Passing- Garnett
    Assisting - Garnett
    Shooting - Dirk
    Career Accolades - Garnett
    Rebounding - Garnett

    Garnett wins.
    It is pretty tough to get a rep for choking when you are home every year for the playoffs ala KG.
    Last time I checked, The Mavericks have Josh Howard, Jason Terry, and Jerry Stackhouse to back up Dirk Nowitzki. The Timberwolves have...? Ricky Davis and a bad coach? That's what I thought.
    there is really no unbiased case to be made otherwise.
    Sure there is. I'm not a Garnett or a Dirk fan, so I'm unbiased to the max.

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    Default Re: top 5 players....is Dirk still there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Richie2k6
    Scoring - Dirk
    Defense - Garnett
    Blocking - Garnett
    Stealing - Garnett
    Passing- Garnett
    Assisting - Garnett
    Shooting - Dirk
    Career Accolades - Garnett
    Rebounding - Garnett

    Garnett wins.
    To be fair, "passing" and "assisting?" I think are the same thing, and career accolades are really an even split not. Regardless, Garnett still has far more talent than Dirk.

    For example, you could add an Athleticism category:

    Speed-Garnett
    Jumping-Garnett
    Quickness-Garnett
    Stamina-Even

    It really isn't close.



    Last time I checked, The Mavericks have Josh Howard, Jason Terry, and Jerry Stackhouse to back up Dirk Nowitzki. The Timberwolves have...? Ricky Davis and a bad coach? That's what I thought.
    Give Foye some time, he'll be ok.

    They do need a GM though to put together a real team together with a coach.

    Sure there is. I'm not a Garnett or a Dirk fan, so I'm unbiased to the max.
    I'm pretty sure he was just trolling now that I think about it...

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    Default Re: top 5 players....is Dirk still there?

    To be fair, "passing" and "assisting?" I think are the same thing, and career accolades are really an even split not. Regardless, Garnett still has far more talent than Dirk.
    Just for specificity:

    Passing - Giving the ball to another teammate.
    Assisting - Giving the ball to another teammate in a chance for them to score.
    Playmaking - Creating a scoring opportunity for another teammate.

    That's how I've always personally looked at it. But let's not get into that.
    I'm pretty sure he was just trolling now that I think about it...
    Pretty likely.

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    Default Re: top 5 players....is Dirk still there?

    So you win MVP and you're not top 5? Makes perfect sense to me.

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    Default Re: top 5 players....is Dirk still there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rameek
    dont see Dirk
    Dirk is 30 years old....too old to draft

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    Default Re: top 5 players....is Dirk still there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orlando Magic
    So you win MVP and you're not top 5? Makes perfect sense to me.


    Read over the thread.

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