If people are really born gay..

[bmulls]

Homosexuality is present in almost all species, if I recall correctly and thus has been around practically as long as any living creature has existed on this planet. Given this information what makes it wrong or abnormal outside of what religion conditioning has imprinted upon you? Enlightenment and greater knowledge has frightened many a person clinging to how things have always been. I see no reason to be in fear or disgust at greater numbers of people excepting what has always been as normal and not shunning fathers, mothers, children, cousins, etc solely because they are attracted to the same sex. Perhaps being a rational person leaves me unable to understand your point of view.

Liberal morons that are also apparently convinced of their intellectual superiority

I just posted I'm atheist, I've never been religious and I've never had any religious conditioning "imprinted" on me. I also accept that homosexuality exists and I don't care if they get married.

With that said, I don't need to agree with it. There are more criminals in the United States than gay people. Does that make criminality right and normal? For a legal example, millions of people cheat on their significant others. Is this also right and normal?

The mere fact that people do something doesn't inherently make it a good thing.

[jdiaby]

That is incorrect. Check out Greek society for one. You know the precursors to modern democracy. Openly had homosexuality throughout the society, made most famous by the Spartans.

No society is mainly homosexual because the vast majority of people are heterosexual. I really don't understand what your point is with that last sentence. The only rights homosexuals in the US are fighting for is the right to marry the adult they love the same way I married my wife and probably the same way you will eventually marry whoever you find love with.

I understand that gays want the same rights as heterosexual couples, I believe they should have them per our constitution. I'm just saying they need to stop acting like homosexuality is genetic rather than a fetish or alternative lifestyle. Being gay is a choice, and unhealthy one at that, and just because I don't agree with the lifestyle doesn't make me a homophobe or wrong.

[IcanzIIravor]

Liberal morons that are also apparently convinced of their intellectual superiority

I just posted I'm atheist, I've never been religious and I've never had any religious conditioning "imprinted" on me. I also accept that homosexuality exists and I don't care if they get married.

With that said, I don't need to agree with it. There are more criminals in the United States than gay people. Does that make criminality right and normal? For a legal example, millions of people cheat on their significant others. Is this also right and normal?

The mere fact that people do something doesn't inherently make it a good thing.

What makes it a bad thing then? Is it just your personal belief and if so where did you get this belief from. Since you are an atheist can one assume you have come to this conclusion over time and examining the issue from a rational perspective? Are you deriving it from the ick factor or is there some other facts that have led you to the position that it is abnormal and wrong? Given that homosexuality is found throughout other species how is it abnormal? Is this the slippery slope argument, since you have thrown in criminals into the mix and adultery? Do you think if homosexuality is accepted in society criminals and adulterers will be as well amongst other things?

[IcanzIIravor]

I understand that gays want the same rights as heterosexual couples, I believe they should have them per our constitution. I'm just saying they need to stop acting like homosexuality is genetic rather than a fetish or alternative lifestyle. Being gay is a choice, and unhealthy one at that, and just because I don't agree with the lifestyle doesn't make me a homophobe or wrong.

Do you really think it is a choice. Recently Iran executed several gay men for being gay. Given that they live in such a harsh society that would kill them rather than accept such, what makes you think they chose to be gay? In the face of a potential death sentence you think they chose to be gay when they could have resisted it and been heterosexual?

[jdiaby]

Why does there have to be a benefit in modern society? What benefit is gained by any number of modern technologies in our society, yet they are embraced. We aren't a hunter/gather society from 500 BC needing to pop out babies to sustain the people due to lack of drugs or immunity against disease and other disasters. There is nothing rational about jacking off either, since your sperm should only be used to knock a chick up right? What makes you think all gay men have to wear diapers? Did you get that from a study on gay men having sex or something?

If homosexuality is so harmless and rational to society and the individuals, I guess you would willing accept blood transfusion from homosexual individual?

[IcanzIIravor]

If homosexuality is so harmless and rational to society and the individuals, I guess you would willing accept blood transfusion from homosexual individual?

Yes. Why wouldn't I. Being gay doesn't mean your blood is bad. What have you been reading?

[jdiaby]

Do you really think it is a choice. Recently Iran executed several gay men for being gay. Given that they live in such a harsh society that would kill them rather than accept such, what makes you think they chose to be gay? In the face of a potential death sentence you think they chose to be gay when they could have resisted it and been heterosexual?

I think people are weak of their fleshly desires, that why you have all-time high of single mothers, divorce, and adultery. People think with their sexual desires, instead of constraining oneself. Those men shouldn't been put to death for their bad decisions, but to act like being gay is ok and is genetic is crazy, if it is more gay people should be pushing to correct themselves and become normal.

[IcanzIIravor]

I think people are weak of their fleshly desires, that why you have all-time high of single mothers, divorce, and adultery. People think with their sexual desires, instead of constraining oneself. Those men shouldn't been put to death for their bad decisions, but to act like being gay is ok and is genetic is crazy, if it is more gay people should be pushing to correct themselves and become normal.

Do you think it is by choice that you aren't gay? Have you ever desired to sleep with another man, but simply chose not too? Is it by choice that you are only attracted to women or do you feel you could easily go gay if you wanted too?

[rufuspaul]

I think people are weak of their fleshly desires, that why you have all-time high of single mothers, divorce, and adultery. People think with their sexual desires, instead of constraining oneself. Those men shouldn't been put to death for their bad decisions, but to act like being gay is ok and is genetic is crazy, if it is more gay people should be pushing to correct themselves and become normal.

Were you born irretrievably stupid or did you just choose that trait?

[jdiaby]

Yes. Why wouldn't I. Being gay doesn't mean your blood is bad. What have you been reading?

I guess my guy, but there is reason why they don't allow homosexuals to donate blood because the have higher chance of being suspectible to AIDS and other diseases, doesn't mean they all have something but higher percentage do because of the acts they engage in. It would be like accepting blood from somebody in central africa.

[rufuspaul]

I guess my guy, but there is reason why they don't allow homosexuals to donate blood because the have higher chance of being suspectible to AIDS and other diseases, doesn't mean they all have something but higher percentage do because of the acts they engage in. It would be like accepting blood from somebody in central africa.

This doesn't even deserve a comment but I'm bored so I'll feed the troll. Blood from good ole 1st world heterosexuals can transmit disease too. That's why blood is tested and typed before it is used in transfusions.

[jdiaby]

Were you born irretrievably stupid or did you just choose that trait?

Please bro, just cause you wanna accept that ******ry ain't got shit to do with me, we have to agree to disagree and keep it movin'.

[Rockets(T-mac)]

I guess my guy, but there is reason why they don't allow homosexuals to donate blood because the have higher chance of being suspectible to AIDS and other diseases, doesn't mean they all have something but higher percentage do because of the acts they engage in. It would be like accepting blood from somebody in central africa.

Wow do you even know how AIDS is transmitted? It has nothing to do with being gay. My god...... Do they even teach this shit in health class any more? Are did you just decide to make your own reality?

[ace23]

Wow do you even know how AIDS is transmitted? It has nothing to do with being gay. My god...... Do they even teach this shit in health class any more?

AIDS is more easily transmitted by **** than ******l because of the blood.

That guy is pretty stupid, though.

[macmac]

Yeah but that ban on gay men blood transfusion has been lifted