Why Doesn't Kobe Have Any Signature Playoff Moments?

[Heavincent]

Kobe doesn't have a moment, where he was the "man", and went through some adversity. Or finally conquered something, and went up against Goliath.

What about all of the "Kobe can't win without Shaq" BS? People were bringing that up constantly.

[konex]

I disagree he does have signature playoff moments...but signature finals moments?

Kobe has scored 40 in the Finals before (Orlando). He also saved the Lakers ass vs. Indiana when Shaq fouled out. He also hit a 3 at the buzzer to force OT and the win vs. Detroit. Those are just off the top of my head...

[Deuce Bigalow]

00 WCF Game 7 - 4th quarter + alley oop
00 Finals Game 4 - 4th quarter + OT
06 1st Round Game 4 - game tying jumper + game winner in OT

Can you give me a list of Larry Bird's? Hakeem's? Duncan's?
If you're going to use great games as an example for Duncan then two can play that game.
50 point game
49 points and 10 assists
48 points and 16 rebounds
45 points and 10 rebounds
40 points, 8 rebounds, 8 assists

How about these 3 straight games during the 10 WCF
36/9/11
38/7/10
30/11/9

[tikay0]

That's an unfair comparison I mean how many legendary moments does Duncan have?

He doesn't need any, because he was the MAN on his team.

[Ne 1]

-Game 1 2009 Finals, hitting all kind of shots over Clee and Pietrus.
-Dominant WCF performances.
-Game tying shot + game winner vs Suns (2006 Playoffs).
-2000 finals, when Shaq fouled out and he took over.
-2008 WCF Game 1- Lakers down 20. Kobe single-handily brings them back in the 2nd half with 25 pts and 5 assists.

How about when he was drooping 40+ on the Spurs in the '01 WCF?

How about when he was leading the Lakers back from 10+ 2nd half deficits THREE TIMES in 2002?

How about when he was ripping up the Spurs in 2004?

How about when brought the Lakers back against Portland in 00'?

How about the 50 point game against the Suns in '06?


take your pick.

Anyway who needs a "signature" playoff moment when you have 5 rings? Honestly...

You think we're gonna forget in 10 years he had 5 rings? No.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Games don't count as great moments to me. The flu game is great because he did that with the flu not because he played well. The shrug is hilarious because the coach came out before saying we'll win by making him shoot 3s and that failed miserably

[boozehound]

sure he does. 6-24

[Heavincent]

NO ONE REMEMBERS THAT SHIT.

What does that even mean?

Nobody remembers any specific moment from Duncan, Hakeem, or Shaq either. They just remember their general dominance. Nobody has ever asked me if I remember that jump hook Duncan hit in the 4th quarter of game 1 in the 03 Finals. In fact, you don't really hear about Duncan that much. Does that mean shit? No, it doesn't.

You're basically telling me "yeah, he dominated, but nobody gave any of those games a cool title". So what?

[Andrei89]

ummmm

2000 vs suns - game winner vs suns

2000 vs blazers - 15 point 4th quarter, leading scorer, biggest assist in laker history

2000 vs indiana - game 4 injured ankle take over with shaq out, best performance by a 20-21 year old since magic johnsons rookie finals mvp with kareem out, go ahead winning shots, winning tip in

2001 vs kings - the 48/16 game.

2002 vs spurs - shaq calls him the best player, officially takes over the torch

2004 vs pistons - the shot

2006 vs suns - the dunk on nash ( probably the best dunk ever in the playoffs that ive ever witnessed )

2006 vs suns - the game winner

2009 vs suns - the streak ( best shooting performance ive ever seen in the playoffs. )

2009 vs magic - the leaning reverse shot over dwight in the deciding game ( almost jordan like vs the lakers in 91 )



these are fresh in my mind

and he has many more big moments. but these are his most memorable

Also add...

the this...

the that...

the there...

the elsewhere...

since we are at it!

[Young X]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACZnF87Iy84

[tikay0]

What about all of the "Kobe can't win without Shaq" BS? People were bringing that up constantly.

Ok, so he needed Bynum/Gasol/Artest. What's your point.

You can't win without MJ either, but you can win with Alonzo Mourning/Shareef Abdur Rahim/Jalen Rose.

[tikay0]

What does that even mean?

Nobody remembers any specific moment from Duncan, Hakeem, or Shaq either. They just remember their general dominance. Nobody has ever asked me if I remember that jump hook Duncan hit in the 4th quarter of game 1 in the 03 Finals. In fact, you don't really hear about Duncan that much. Does that mean shit? No, it doesn't.

You're basically telling me "yeah, he dominated, but nobody gave any of those games a cool title". So what?

Kobe never had to carry a team in the playoffs or the Finals. Get over it.

[MJ23forever]

Kobe's had some great performances in the playoffs over his career but there is one game and one particular play that will always stand out to me. The game would be game 7 of the 2002 WCF up in sac-town. Kobe played 52mins, had 30 points, 10 boards, 7 assits and 2 steals.

It wasnt so much the numbers and the numbers were great, it was just the type of determination he and the rest of the Lakers had in that game. They went into one of the hardest arenas to win in that season and they got it done in a game 7. Just an impressive, impressive perfomance.

Now the play that stands out was against the Spurs in the second round during that same playoff run in 2002. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...tG5vL6k#t=248s

He went between and over both Duncan and Robinson two 7 footers for one of the greatest rebounds i've ever seen. That one particular play shows the type of determination Kobe had for that entire playoff run. Shaq was battling injuries for pretty much the entire Western Conference playoff run and Kobe refused to let them lose.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Ok, so he needed Bynum/Gasol/Artest. What's your point.

You can't win without MJ either, but you can win with Alonzo Mourning/Shareef Abdur Rahim/Jalen Rose.

Bynum
09 Playoffs: 6/4
10 Playoffs: 9/7

Artest
09 Playoffs: wasn't on the team
10 Playoffs: 11/4/2

Oh no! He needed so much help.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kobe never had to carry a team in the playoffs or the Finals. Get over it.

Then nobody has either. One player doesn't "carry" a whole team to victories in the playoffs.