Atheism vs. Theism

[AboveTheRim.]

If Newton believed in god then their must be a god. Thread over.

Science is a liar, sometimes.

[G-train]

I grew up a Christian, going to Presbyterian church until I was 18. In the last few years I have gotten fed up with people who call themselves Christians solely because they go to church. It doesn't matter what they do the rest of the time, but as long as they get their 60 minutes in on Sunday, they are almighty. I don't consider myself Christian anymore. I do believe in God, but don't need a label to prove that to myself.

Ah yes, the Western Christian. USA has been blighted by many.
It is behavior far from the teachings of the one they claim to follow.
His teachings are quite interesting if you study them.

[miller-time]

Science is a liar, sometimes.

Only when it is counter to religious claims though.

If they said they could identify Jesus' blood through DNA analysis and carbon dating, creationists would be running through the streets praising science.

[AboveTheRim.]

Only when it is counter to religious claims though.

If they said they could identify Jesus' blood through DNA analysis and carbon dating, creationists would be running through the streets praising science.

Was just quoting Sunny

[G-train]

Well I can't really prove that one way or another. But I actually thought it was a young earth creationist quote than a Newton quote.

What do you think of the 1937 lecture "Religion und Naturwissenschaft" by Max Planck?

[G-train]

I disagree. It's a personal belief. Only your own thoughts on it should matter. Plenty people smarter than me believe in god, plenty don't. It doesn't effect my beliefs.

I disagree with your disagreeing.

Your mind isn't open to the in depth study of others and their point of view?

I think it's ironic that many atheists I talk to claim to be free thinking, but simply just believe what they read in a Senior level text book and refuse to consider any other line of thinking.

[G-train]

Only when it is counter to religious claims though.

If they said they could identify Jesus' blood through DNA analysis and carbon dating, creationists would be running through the streets praising science.

Creationists are scientists. They praise science daily.

[miller-time]

What do you think of the 1937 lecture "Religion und Naturwissenschaft" by Max Planck?

I don't know it.

[G-train]

I don't know it.

I recommend reading it to get a well rounded view on a few topics.

[G-train]

Quote:
But for this book (Bible) we could not know right from wrong.

Quote:
I have been driven many times upon my knees by the overwhelming conviction that I had no where else to go.

Quote:
"Surely God would not have created such a being as man to exist only for a day! Man was made for immortality"

What do atheist American's think of these quotes?

I would really like to hear Yankee thoughts on these quotes by perhaps their greatest leader ever?
He lived post 1859 btw for those who are into that date.

[G-train]

What text book says there is no god?

I'm referring to young people that read a Biology text book in high school or college, take it as 'gospel' then refer to themselves as free thinking former theists.

[miller-time]

I'm referring to young people that read a Biology text book in high school or college, take it as 'gospel' then refer to themselves as free thinking former theists.

But if they read the bible and took it as gospel then that is ok?

[steve franchise]

Oh this thread again. Same posters, same arguments, same bullshit. Rinse and repeat.

Classic ISH.

[miller-time]

Oh this thread again. Same posters, same arguments, same bullshit. Rinse and repeat.

Classic ISH.

And this thread wouldn't be complete without this post! Thanks for being as derivative as the rest of us.

[steve franchise]

And this thread wouldn't be complete without this post! Thanks for being as derivative as the rest of us.

Repped.