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    Default If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?

    Latinos: ideology

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    I saw this on MSNBC today.

    If Republicans soften the immigration message, I think Democrats are done.

    Thoughts?

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    Default Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?

    No. The entire party needs a serious "make over" before they will be able to contend for the throne in future elections.

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    Default Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?

    You have to love how they're willing to suddenly switch their stance solely to win an election, not because they feel it's the right stance. F*cking politics.

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    Default Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Is He Ill
    You have to love how they're willing to suddenly switch their stance solely to win an election, not because they feel it's the right stance. F*cking politics.
    Politics are so fu*ked on both sides. I hate both the crips and bloods, and both sides are fighting for the Latino Kings support.

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    Default Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by longhornfan1234
    Latinos: ideology

    54% conservative

    39% liberal

    I saw this on MSNBC today.

    If Republicans soften the immigration message, I think Democrats are done.

    Thoughts?
    Well, if the GOP has a makeover and the stops being the nationalist, racist, homophobic, anti-science, xenophobic, anti-women party, it will be a good thing. The problem with the GOP is that they are catering to the extreme right, the religious nuts, softening their ant-immigration stance won't be enough. They need to support policies that benefit the working class, not just the rich. Latinos have a big blue collar base, they vote for their economic interests, not just because of immigration...

    The GOP WILL change, they have to or they risk being out of the White House for a loooong time. They'll still prolly get their asses handed to them in 2016 by the Clintons because I don't think they've all have gotten the messege...eventually they will, though.
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    Default Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?

    I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that you're the life of every party you go to. Your range in conversation topics rivals even the great L. Kizzle.

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    Default Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMan
    Well, if the GOP has a makeover and the stops being the nationalist, racist, homophobic, anti-science, xenophobic, anti-women party, it will be a good thing. The problem with the GOP is that they are catering to the extreme right, the religious nuts, softening their ant-immigration stance won't be enough. They need to support policies that benefit the working class, not just the rich. Latinos have a big blue collar base, they vote for their economic interests, not just because of immigration...

    The GOP WILL change, they have to or they risk being out of the White House for a loooong time. They'll still prolly get their asses handed to them in 2016 by the Clintons because I don't think they've all have gotten the messege...eventually they will, though.
    Your first paragraph is bunch of bs, but I agree with your second paragraph.

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    Default Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by B-Low
    I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that you're the life of every party you go to. Your range in conversation topics rivals even the great L. Kizzle.
    You know me so well.

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    Default Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by longhornfan1234
    Latinos: ideology

    54% conservative

    39% liberal

    I saw this on MSNBC today.

    If Republicans soften the immigration message, I think Democrats are done.

    Thoughts?

    you guys just got your asses handed to you. do you really think you are gonna turn it around so easily, much less proclaim the Dems "done"?

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    Default Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by longhornfan1234
    Your first paragraph is bunch of bs
    And there lies the GOP's problem. You don't believe the first paragraph.

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    Default Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by rezznor
    you guys just got your asses handed to you. do you really think you are gonna turn it around so easily, much less proclaim the Dems "done"?
    If we soften immigration message, yes. And close the women gap. We need to soften our message about abortion.

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    Default Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeuceWallaces
    And there lies the GOP's problem. You don't believe the first paragraph.
    The Democrats are communistic, socialistic, racist, anti-white, anti-male and anti-rich. You can argue the same exact thing for Democrats.

    In regards to immigration, I only believe that they should soften the line on legal immigration, maybe let more people in legally, maybe. But not with illegal immigrants. I think they should absolutely be deported.

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    Default Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Math2
    The Democrats are communistic, socialistic, racist, anti-white, anti-male and anti-rich. You can argue the same exact thing for Democrats.
    No you can't. Name a prominent politician having any of those views.

    I don't need to remind you about Santorum's "Government NIG*" or all those Rape comments.

    Both sides are NOT the same.

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    Default Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?

    The bigger and much harder part is they are going to have to not just change a policy stance, but actually show Hispanics some respect and they are very bad at doing that across the party. For every Republican who could authentically represent a more sensible immigration policy, you have politicians like Jan Brewer in Arizona who get elected because of the hostility to Hispanics Nationalism is element in the Republican coalition and the Republicans will probably have to deal with a Pat Buchanan type threat on the right on immigration for a little bit.

    Mike Huckabee talked about how he was able to do so well with blacks when he was Governor and he said, you can't just show up during the campaign, you have put in the work and have a dialogue all the time if you want their votes. He won't 48% of the black vote one election. When's the last time that happened for a Republican?

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    Default Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Math2
    The Democrats are communistic, socialistic, racist, anti-white, anti-male and anti-rich. You can argue the same exact thing for Democrats.

    In regards to immigration, I only believe that they should soften the line on legal immigration, maybe let more people in legally, maybe. But not with illegal immigrants. I think they should absolutely be deported.
    I don't believe the first paragraph.

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