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    Default Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2

    wade = top 25-30 all time
    pippen = top 20-25 all time
    kareem = arguable goat
    pau = top 90-100 all time


    pau:

    averaged 19ppg
    0-12 playoff rec as 1st option
    averaged only 9 rebounds as a 7 footer
    4 reserve allstar games
    2 all nba third teams


    is currently averaging 13/8/3 on 45%fg's as a 7 foot center/power forward


    as for the other 3 guys

    - dwyane wade

    24/5/6 career average
    7 all nba teams (2 first teams)
    3 all defensive teams
    finals mvp
    allstar mvp
    9 time starting allstar


    - scottie pippen


    20/7/6 average from 1990-1998
    16/6/5 average career
    7 all nba teams (3 first teams)
    10 all defensive teams ( 8 first team )
    allstar mvp
    7 time allstar (starting some games )



    kareem abdul jabbar


    24/11/3 career
    15 all nba teams (10 first teams )
    11 all defensive teams ( 5 first teams )
    7 time mvp
    2 time finals mvp
    19 time allstar ( started most )




    3 hall of fame legends

    1 boarderline allstar for half his career. a nobody for the other half


    this is why i don't care that kobe had shaq for his first 3 rings... his 3 straight finals, back 2 back titles/finals mvps with a guy like pau gasol is something nobody else has ever done in nba history

    hakeem did it once ( then won in 95 with a legend )

    walton did it once

    barry did it once

    dirk did it once ( but lately its been obvious tyson chandler as a defensive anchor was the real reason the mavs were dominant )

    duncan did it once in 2003

    only these guys had comparable running mates for a single title

    every other big name in nba history to lead a team to a championship did it with a legendary side kick

    kobe did it with a bum................TWICE

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    Default Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2

    Not being a high caliber star historically doesnt mean him a bum.

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    Default Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2

    Quote Originally Posted by ZeN
    Not being a high caliber star historically doesnt mean him a bum.

    but he was a bum

    hes pau gasol

    the softest player in history

    couldnt rebound the ball at 7 feet tall

    could barely jump over a sheet of paper

    settles for 20 footers

    gets dunked on by 6-4 players




    he was solid when the lakers won titles. but he was still one of the 5 worst 2nd options in championship history

    and he should NOT make the hall of fame just because of a few silver medals from the olympics

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    Default Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2

    Pau was great in the 09 & 10 Playoffs.
    18/11/3/2 58FG
    20/11/4/2 54FG

    "Bum"

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    Default Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2

    dirk did it once ( but lately its been obvious tyson chandler as a defensive anchor was the real reason the mavs were dominant )


    You are an idiot. Dirk hasn't been playing like in 2011 playoffs, how can you get to this stupid conclusion?

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    Default Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
    Pau was great in the 09 & 10 Playoffs.
    18/11/3 58FG
    20/11/4 54FG

    "Bum"

    i said he was solid during the titles

    hes a bum career wise


    without kobe he would have had a career similar to shareef abdur rahim

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    Default Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Segatti
    dirk did it once ( but lately its been obvious tyson chandler as a defensive anchor was the real reason the mavs were dominant )


    You are an idiot. Dirk hasn't been playing like in 2011 playoffs, how can you get to this stupid conclusion?

    i dunno... the knicks suddenly a title contender and a solid defensive team?

    tyson is obviously a garnett type defensive anchor out there

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    Default Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2

    Gasol averaged 20 and 11 and 2 blocks per game on 54% shooting in the 2010 playoffs. What a bum

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    Default Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2

    Gasol was robbed of a fmvp

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    Default Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2

    Quote Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
    i said he was solid during the titles

    hes a bum career wise


    without kobe he would have had a career similar to shareef abdur rahim
    and without shaq and gasol and phil jackson kobe would have had a career similar to allen iverson.

    so what? means nothing....

    Gasol during the two title runs was absolutely great. Way better than his numbers even suggest considering how clutch he was as well.

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    Default Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2

    Quote Originally Posted by asdf1990
    Gasol was robbed of a fmvp


    33/8/6 2009 finals average

    30/6/5 2010 finals average


    main play maker, main ball handler too


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    Default Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2

    Kobe shot 25% on the most shot attempts in Game 7 and benefitted from the other team's defensive anchor going down with an injury for one of those rings.

    I don't even care if you classify Gasol as a "bum", but it's impossible to paint Kobe as a hero who carried that team when others had to clean up his mess.

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    Default Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2

    Quote Originally Posted by asdf1990
    Gasol was robbed of a fmvp
    Your mother was robbed of her birth control

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    Default Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2

    Quote Originally Posted by kennethgriffin


    33/8/6 2009 finals average

    30/6/5 2010 finals average


    main play maker, main ball handler too

    30/6/5 are pretty good numbers for a sidekick

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    Default Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2

    Quote Originally Posted by DMAVS41
    and without shaq and gasol and phil jackson kobe would have had a career similar to allen iverson.

    so what? means nothing....

    Gasol during the two title runs was absolutely great. Way better than his numbers even suggest considering how clutch he was as well.

    i know everyone needs help

    kobe just needed allot less than 90% of finals mvps

    ofcourse if you take off your 2nd best player itel be hard to win

    just saying kobes second best player for 2 straight titles was PAU GASOFT


    lakers might be one of the only teams in history to win a title with ZERO interior defense


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