2012 OTC WWWF/WWF/WWE Match Thread

[Maniak]

So can I add Triple H's Evolution era(2003-05) and Jericho's second stint(2008-2010) to their resumes?

Example:
1. Triple H - HEEL from August 1999 to May 2001 during first Main Event status run, August 2004 to June 2005 during Evolution

2. Chris Jericho - HEEL from October 2001 to May 2003, second stint era(April 2008 to April 2010)

Triple H's gimmick didn't really change between the two era's. Jericho's gimmick did because 2008-2010 version was business-like.

no.

[Maniak]

I'll judge if need be

yes.

The three judges will be Raiderfan19, Anti Hero, and Enough Said.

[AK47DR91]

no.

Alright.

yes.

The three judges will be Raiderfan19, Anti Hero, and Enough Said.

Where is EnoughSaid? He stopped posting in the original thread after the first couple of days.

[Loneshot]

Singles Competitors

Ultimate Warrior - (1987-1991) - Face
Brock Lesnar - (2002-2004) - Heel
Jeff Jarrett - (1997–1999) - Heel
Ken Shamrock - (1997–1999) - Face
Bam Bam Bigelow - (1992–1995) - Heel
The Hurricane - (2001-2005) - Face
Finlay - (2006-2009) - Heel
Chyna - (1999-2001) - Face

Singles Competitors

Bam Bam Bigelow/Finlay - Heel

Ultimate Warrior/The Hurricane - Face

[QuebecBaller]

Damn...I just have heels

Edge - Rated R Superstar - Heel
Randy Orton - Legend Killer - Heel
Rick Rude - Heel (1987-1990)
Bob Backlund - Mr. Backlund (1994-1995) - Heel
Billy Gun - Mr. Ass - Heel
Ren

[Jackass18]

I don't have much time to do this now, so I'll do some as I go along:

Singles:
Bruno Sammartino - I guess I can only have half of his first title reign, so '63-'67 - Face
Eddie Guerrero - His return to the WWE and eventual title reign - Face
Christian - His return to the WWE and becoming a multi-time champ - Face
Dynamite Kid - '84-'88 - Face
William Regal - His time as Raw GM, King of the Ring winner and IC champ (it's a shame he screwed himself over) - Heel
Tajiri - His face run at the beginning - Face
Greg Valentine - '84-'88 - Heel
"Mr. Wonderful" Paul Orndorff - I'll take him when he turned on Hogan and started a big feud with him - Heel

Tag Teams:
Regal & Tajiri
Dynamite Kid & William Regal
Dynamite Kid & Tajiri

[Jackass18]

So, we can put 2 guys together who never teamed up as a tag team?

[Maniak]

yes. it may factor against you though.

[PullupJay]

yes. it may factor against you though.

I didn't even put that into consideration going into this.

Question. What if someone puts 2 random wrestlers together but they are very good vs a mediocre well established tag team like duddley boys or whatever. To what extent does it factor against you? Why would a established tag team have more of a chance then 2 other wrestlers they are equivalent or not as good as? Aren't you judging the wrestlers based on their attributes and skills?

(separate )What if the the two guys were part of a stable? Is that the same as a tag team they do have chemistry

[Loneshot]

I didn't even put that into consideration going into this.

Question. What if someone puts 2 random wrestlers together but they are very good vs a mediocre well established tag team like duddley boys or whatever. To what extent does it factor against you? Why would a established tag team have more of a chance then 2 other wrestlers they are equivalent or not as good as? Aren't you judging the wrestlers based on their attributes and skills?

Yeah, if that was a little clearer prior i would have went after a specific tag team just for tag matches. I think established teams should have an advantage over teams thrown together, but i would think that an established team like...MNM (Nitro/Mercury) still can't beat the team of say...Road Dogg/Goldust. Dogg and Dust have never been a team, but one of those guys alone has more charisma than the entire team of MNM. One of those guys alone is better on the mic than either of MNM as sinlges or a team. And so on and so on, so how will such things play into effect when judging? That is what i wonder.

[BoogieWoogieMan]

[QUOTE=Loneshot]Singles Competitors

Ultimate Warrior - (1987-1991) - Face
Brock Lesnar - (2002-2004) - Heel
Jeff Jarrett - (1997

[Loneshot]

Shamrock was a face from 1997 - late 1998, until he joined the corporation.

That's the problem with the era rule though, you basically lose that wrestler's value if they flip flopped roles or only had a short time in some role. If all these regulations were established pre-draft, i think people would have picked differently, i definitely would have with some picks. I picked based on the idea that match-ups would be based on their all-time (in WWF/E) success.

[BoogieWoogieMan]

That's the problem with the era rule though, you basically lose that wrestler's value if they flip flopped roles or only had a short time in some role. If all these regulations were established pre-draft, i think people would have picked differently, i definitely would have with some picks.

Pick his first face reign, everything important that happened to him during that run. Besides winning the tag titles, he didn't do much during his heel run. Also in 1999, didn't he had a another face run with the Union?

[Loneshot]

Pick his first face reign, everything important that happened to him during that run. Besides winning the tag titles, he didn't do much during his heel run. Also in 1999, didn't he had a another face run with the Union?

I'll do that. And in i don't remember. I wasn't really prepared to do era research. I just though "Shamrock, 90s? He got DQ'd a lot, must have been a heel."

[BoogieWoogieMan]

I'll do that. And in i don't remember. I wasn't really prepared to do era research. I just though "Shamrock, 90s? He got DQ'd a lot, must have been a heel."

He did get DQ'd a lot. It used to pissed me off so much because I was a big fan of his.

But if you watch those matches, the crowd was always cheering for him.