How come Lebron had such a terrible fg% in the finals?

[whoartthou]

Yea, we know what happened. Shaq refused to take a back seat to Kobe Bryant, so he bitched and moaned to Jerry Buss about getting him his money. Then, he got shipped out and the rest of the team left.

Kobe started from scratch, and built an entire new dynasty while Shaq was being shipped from coast to coast like a used whore.

In the end, Kobe ends up with more rings than Shaq and a better career.

the lakers started from scratch and built a new dynasty, not kobe. Mitch = mvp. Gasol= MVP. Kobe=doing what he always does.. chuck and hopefully he makes some

Nope. Kobe just took matters into his own hands and chucked his team out of those games. If he got the ball to shaq, they prolly win one more chip

[The Iron Fist]

a mere formality. So that is what explains kobe's atrocious play in the finals

He was burned out from having to carry the team while Shaq was on the bench in the 4th quarters.

He played the role his team asked him to and facilitated the offense so Shaq can dominate against Rik Smits and Todd MacCullogh.

Wow, Shaq was going up against some real brutes when he won those FMVPs. Its a miracle he was even able to score against those guys.

[AlphaWolf24]

Kobe hasn't made it out of the first round of the playoffs without Fisher.

That is not a debatable fact.

Pippen hasn't made the Finals without Jordan.

That is not a debatable fact.

Shaq made the Finals without Kobe.

HANG ON A SECOND. OH DEAR.

THAT KINDA MAKES KOBE THE PIPPEN HUH.

Wipe that egg off yo' motherfuggin face motherfugga.

Pippen without MJ = WCFinals + a 55 win season ECSFinals

MJ without Pippen = 5 losing seasons 1 - 9 in the playoff's



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[whoartthou]

At least one game. But We'll never know. LeBron's teams were always built around him. A bunch of shooters. A Center like Z is ideal for LeBron's game.

and a center like shaq, or an uber stacked team full of 7 footers is what kobe needs to compliment his "unique" game

[whoartthou]

He was burned out from having to carry the team while Shaq was on the bench in the 4th quarters.

He played the role his team asked him to and facilitated the offense so Shaq can dominate against Rik Smits and Todd MacCullogh.

Wow, Shaq was going up against some real brutes when he won those FMVPs. Its a miracle he was even able to score against those guys.

and who was kobe going against?

[AlphaWolf24]

the lakers started from scratch and built a new dynasty, not kobe. Mitch = mvp. Gasol= MVP. Kobe=doing what he always does.. chuck and hopefully he makes some

Nope. Kobe just took matters into his own hands and chucked his team out of those games. If he got the ball to shaq, they prolly win one more chip

2000 playoffs Kobe = 21PPG 4reb 4ast Championship 51% TS%
2001 playoffs Kobe = 29PPG 7reb 6ast Championship 55% TS%
2002 playoffs Kobe = 26PPG 5reb 4ast Championship 51% TS%
2008 playoffs Kobe = 30PPG 5ast 5reb Lost in Da Championship 57% TS%
2009 playoffs Kobe = 30PPG 5ast 5reb Championship 56% TS%
2010 playoffs Kobe = 29PPG 6reb 5ast Championship 56% TS%


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[Bernie Nips]

Pippen without MJ = WCFinals + a 55 win season ECSFinals

MJ without Pippen = 5 losing seasons 1 - 9 in the playoff's



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Pippen = GOAT

[The Iron Fist]

Kobe hasn't made it out of the first round of the playoffs without Fisher.

That is not a debatable fact.

Pippen hasn't made the Finals without Jordan.

That is not a debatable fact.

Shaq made the Finals without Kobe.

HANG ON A SECOND. OH DEAR.

THAT KINDA MAKES KOBE THE PIPPEN HUH.

Wipe that egg off yo' motherfuggin face motherfugga.

As I said, cool. I have no problem with Kobe having Fisher as his Pippen.

Just shows how much of a burden he had to carry with Derek Fisher as his main secondary player.

So Shaq made the finals without Kobe.

Big deal, how many games did he win?

Kobe has made 3 straight finals appearances without Shaq, and won two in a row.

There is no egg here cupcake, just a fat juicy smile.

[Bernie Nips]

2000 playoffs Kobe = 21PPG 4reb 4ast Championship 51% TS%
2001 playoffs Kobe = 29PPG 7reb 6ast Championship 55% TS%
2002 playoffs Kobe = 26PPG 5reb 4ast Championship 51% TS%
2008 playoffs Kobe = 30PPG 5ast 5reb Lost in Da Championship 57% TS%
2009 playoffs Kobe = 30PPG 5ast 5reb Championship 56% TS%
2010 playoffs Kobe = 29PPG 6reb 5ast Championship 56% TS%


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Tield Soals? I've never heard of these.

[Zach Morris]

and a center like shaq, or an uber stacked team full of 7 footers is what kobe needs to compliment his "unique" game

[The Iron Fist]

and who was kobe going against?

Allen Iverson, Reggie Miller and Jason Kidd.

Not much but a few all stars.

[Bernie Nips]

As I said, cool. I have no problem with Kobe having Fisher as his Pippen.

Just shows how much of a burden he had to carry with Derek Fisher as his main secondary player.

So Shaq made the finals without Kobe.

Big deal, how many games did he win?

Kobe has made 3 straight finals appearances without Shaq, and won two in a row.

There is no egg here cupcake, just a fat juicy smile.

Your comprehension skills don't work there sunshine... Kobe is the Pippen to Fisher's MJ. Your logic, not mine!

The only way Fisher is the Pippen to Kobe's MJ, is if Kobe is the Pippen to Shaq's MJ.

Choose yer poison.

[Ne 1]

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@ Kobe having more rings than LeBron has Finals wins.

[The Iron Fist]

and a center like shaq, or an uber stacked team full of 7 footers is what kobe needs to compliment his "unique" game

Gheorge Mureson, Mark Eaton Manute Bol were all taller 7 footers, so if thats all thats needed to win a championship,


why don't they have a single one between them?




They never had a Kobe Bryant to lead them to the promised land.

[whoartthou]

As I said, cool. I have no problem with Kobe having Fisher as his Pippen.

Just shows how much of a burden he had to carry with Derek Fisher as his main secondary player.

So Shaq made the finals without Kobe.

Big deal, how many games did he win?

Kobe has made 3 straight finals appearances without Shaq, and won two in a row.

There is no egg here cupcake, just a fat juicy smile.

what the f#$# you on? Fisher was not Kobe's secondary player.

Fisher just hit all the big shots.