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AK47DR91
Fan in the Stands (unregistered)
Re: 2012 OTC WWWF/WWF/WWE Match Thread
Originally Posted by Loneshot
That's the problem with the era rule though, you basically lose that wrestler's value if they flip flopped roles or only had a short time in some role. If all these regulations were established pre-draft, i think people would have picked differently, i definitely would have with some picks.
Shamrock's gimmick never changed so I think you can use his entire 2-year run in the WWF as an era.
Face/heel turns happen way too often during the Attitude Era. Jericho for example, he started out as a heel in August 1999, then a tweener, then a full-fledged face by WrestleMania 2000. That's within 7 months.
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AK47DR91
Fan in the Stands (unregistered)
Re: 2012 OTC WWWF/WWF/WWE Match Thread
Originally Posted by Loneshot
I'll do that. And in i don't remember. I wasn't really prepared to do era research. I just though "Shamrock, 90s? He got DQ'd a lot, must have been a heel."
He got DQ'd a lot because he had a gimmick where he snaps out on everybody, even refs, but he was technically a face. Most of his DQ'd were in title matches(vs Shawn for the WWF belt and vs Rock for IC belt) but he won cleanly against non-title holders.
I'm guessing they didn't think he was worthy of the WWF belt and also they wanted to build up Rock as an upcoming top heel so Rock kept that IC belt for a while during that run.
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Redemption
Re: 2012 OTC WWWF/WWF/WWE Match Thread
Originally Posted by AK47DR91
He got DQ'd a lot because he had a gimmick where he snaps out on everybody, even refs, but he was technically a face. Most of his DQ'd were in title matches(vs Shawn for the WWF belt and vs Rock for IC belt) but he won cleanly against non-title holders.
I'm guessing they didn't think he was worthy of the WWF belt and also they wanted to build up Rock as an upcoming top heel so Rock kept that IC belt for a while during that run.
He was considered for the belt, but every time they gave him a chance with a mic, he was terrible. And there went his title dreams.
He still got enough pop from the crowd to be in title contention tho.
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Shazam!
Re: 2012 OTC WWWF/WWF/WWE Match Thread
Honestly I think the era rule is a mistake. One of the things that makes guys special is the ability to get over in different roles. That's one of the things that hurts a guy like Cena and makes Jericho awesome. Jericho has been over in a ton of different characters while Cena has been super Cena for a decade. It's not a good thing to not be able to reinvent yourself. Also even though he wouldn't get credit for it since it was wcw, one of hogans greatest achievements is following the biggest face run ever with the best heel run ever
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AK47DR91
Fan in the Stands (unregistered)
Re: 2012 OTC WWWF/WWF/WWE Match Thread
Originally Posted by BoogieWoogieMan
He was considered for the belt, but every time they gave him a chance with a mic, he was terrible. And there went his title dreams.
He still got enough pop from the crowd to be in title contention tho.
Last sentence doesn't say much since everybody got pop/heat during that era.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxnb3MBiIas just listen to that crowd during a European title match.
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Redemption
Re: 2012 OTC WWWF/WWF/WWE Match Thread
Originally Posted by AK47DR91
I meant he got cheered more compared to his opponent.
The Attitude Era really was the glory days of wrestling.
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NBA Legend
Re: 2012 OTC WWWF/WWF/WWE Match Thread
Originally Posted by raiderfan19
Honestly I think the era rule is a mistake. One of the things that makes guys special is the ability to get over in different roles. That's one of the things that hurts a guy like Cena and makes Jericho awesome. Jericho has been over in a ton of different characters while Cena has been super Cena for a decade. It's not a good thing to not be able to reinvent yourself. Also even though he wouldn't get credit for it since it was wcw, one of hogans greatest achievements is following the biggest face run ever with the best heel run ever
Good point. I have no problem switching to all time wwwf/wwf/wwe instead of a specific era.
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Success
Re: 2012 OTC WWWF/WWF/WWE Match Thread
Singles Competitors :
The Rock - The jabroni beating, pie eating, trail blazing, eye brow raising
Ryback - feed me more 2012- Face
RvD - 2006 mr. monday night - face
Mark Henry - 2010,2011 Hall of pain - Heel
Wade Barret - - leader of Nexus - HEEL
Hardcore Holly.
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Hustle Loyalty Respect
Re: 2012 OTC WWWF/WWF/WWE Match Thread
Singles Competitors :
Randy Savage - 87-91 - Heel
Ricky Steamboat -85- 88 - Face
Sycho Sid - 95-95 - Heel
Road Warrior Animal - 90-92 - Face
The Iron Sheik -83-87- Heel
MVP -06-09 - Heel
Tag Team :
Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard
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AK47DR91
Fan in the Stands (unregistered)
Re: 2012 OTC WWWF/WWF/WWE Match Thread
12 teams have submitted their roster.
4 more teams to go.
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Next Great White Hope
Re: 2012 OTC WWWF/WWF/WWE Match Thread
Can we just have just one or two tag team? Or it have to be 3?
I don't really understand the tag team part
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NBA Legend
Re: 2012 OTC WWWF/WWF/WWE Match Thread
Originally Posted by QuebecBaller
Can we just have just one or two tag team? Or it have to be 3?
I don't really understand the tag team part
You can choose to only submit one. But that means you can only use one throughout the whole tournament. So selecting three teams now does you no harm for the future. But you should keep in mind that the two wrestlers in the tag team cannot be used as individual wrestlers for the same round.
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Shazam!
Re: 2012 OTC WWWF/WWF/WWE Match Thread
Originally Posted by kaiteng
Singles
1. John Cena (Current) - Face
2. Roddy Piper (1984-1987) - Heel
3. "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig - (1988-1991) - Heel
4. Sheamus (Current) - Face
5. Dusty Rhodes (1989-1991) - Face
6. John Morrison -(2007-2009) - Heel
7. Bubba Ray Dudley - (2002) - Face
8. D-Von Dudley - Reverend D-Von (2002) - Heel
Tag Teams
1. Bubby Ray Dudley and D-Von Dudley - Dudley Boyz - Heel
2. John Cena and Sheamus - Face
The favorite IMO heading into the tourney. Other than John Morrison that's an awesome roster.
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Stephen Kerry
Re: 2012 OTC WWWF/WWF/WWE Match Thread
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Next Great White Hope
Re: 2012 OTC WWWF/WWF/WWE Match Thread
Originally Posted by TheSilentKiller
You can choose to only submit one. But that means you can only use one throughout the whole tournament. So selecting three teams now does you no harm for the future. But you should keep in mind that the two wrestlers in the tag team cannot be used as individual wrestlers for the same round.
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