OGT: Nov 21 Toronto Raptors (3-8) vs Charlotte Bobcats (5-4)

[Dave3]

I swear Val was open for like 7 seconds under the rim by himself. Sucks we couldn't get him the ball.

[Eric Cartman]

Not much inside scoring in this game. Jumpshot after jumpshot can get dull after a while.

[kaiteng]

Italians are sure awesome at flopping!

[Qwyjibo]

@ Kleiza and Bargnani with some awesome fast-break defense. I can't believe we have to watch both of these brainless chuckers on the floor at the same time.

[Dw1ll]

Bargnani is a scrub. Trying to check Mullens.

[Legends66NBA7]

USA Chants.

[Just2McFly]

Reading posts here makes me think that if Bargs were to be traded all of the raps problems would be solved. Then I realize that it's the same posters commenting every time a Bargs is being criticized.

[Qwyjibo]

Reading posts here makes me think that if Bargs were to be traded all of the raps problems would be solved. Then I realize that it's the same posters commenting every time a Bargs is being criticized.

A lot of the problems would be solved because Bargnani being traded would mean that Colangelo is no longer a part of the Raptors. I guess the fact that he's not that good of a player doesn't hurt either.

[Dw1ll]

Lowry gets Kobe calls

[kaiteng]

Lowry gets Kobe calls

Just keep attacking and you will get calls.

[Dave3]

Reading posts here makes me think that if Bargs were to be traded all of the raps problems would be solved. Then I realize that it's the same posters commenting every time a Bargs is being criticized.

It's hard to win games with a 7 footer who can neither play defense nor rebound. We're not hating, it's just frustrating to watch that's all.

[Just2McFly]

I just think it's silly to vilify a player when the whole team is broken.

[Qwyjibo]

I just think it's silly to vilify a player when the whole team is broken.

Bryan Colangelo is the main problem with the Raptors. The time and money committed to an average player like Bargnani doesn't help our feelings toward him as a player though.

[Dave3]

No one is vilifying him specifically. Calderon, Kleiza and other players are complained about as well. No one is saying he's the role reason we're bad.

[Legends66NBA7]

I just think it's silly to vilify a player when the whole team is broken.

I've always maintained that this is a management problem with the Raptors. It's been this way since the inception of the Raptors, really.

Isiah Thomas handling with Damon Stoudemire and Marcus Camby.

Glen Grunwald and Rob Babcock unable to build around Vince Carter and changed so many coaches around him.

Bryan Colangelo unable to build the right pieces with Chris Bosh and now Bargnani/Lowry/Val, etc...