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Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
Originally Posted by bwink23
By that logic, the 01 76ers were as a good a defensive team as the 08 Celtics.......
They were as effective at limiting their opponents on a point per possession basis over the course of the entire regular season. Its not a ranking, just a simple fact.
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Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
Originally Posted by bwink23
By that logic, the 01 76ers were as a good a defensive team as the 08 Celtics.......
when teams Jordan is going up against are consistantly are giving up more ppg than the ones MJ faced it indicates the stronger defensive teams. No, the 01 sixers probably aren't as good at defense as the celtics BUT the overall trend is teams Jordan saw in the finals are < defensively skilled than Kobe's.
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Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
Originally Posted by SlayerEnraged
when teams Jordan is going up against are consistantly are giving up more ppg than the ones MJ faced it indicates the stronger defensive teams. No, the 01 sixers probably aren't as good at defense as the celtics BUT the overall trend is teams Jordan saw in the finals are < defensively skilled than Kobe's.
Is that why Kobe shoots subpar in most of his NBA Finals???
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Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
Originally Posted by bwink23
Is that why Kobe shoots subpar in most of his NBA Finals???
Seems like common sense to me. How much better would Kobe have to be than Jordan to face much more effective defenses in his time and still shoot a higher percentage than him?
04 Pistons 95.4
01 76ers 98.9
08 Celtics 98.9
02 Nets 99.5
93 Knicks 99.7
97 Heat 100.6
09 Magic 101.9
00 Pacers 103.6
10 Celtics 103.8
MJ vs 97 Heat
Game 1 15 for 31
Game 2 4 for 15
Game 3 14 for 25
Game 4 9 for 35
Game 5 11 for 31
MJ vs 93 Knicks
Game 1 10 for 27
Game 2 12 for 32
Game 3 3 for 18
Game 4 18 for 30
Game 5 11 for 24
Game 6 8 for 24
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Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot
Seems like common sense to me. How much better would Kobe have to be than Jordan to face much more effective defenses in his time and still shoot a higher percentage than him?
04 Pistons 95.4
01 76ers 98.9
08 Celtics 98.9
02 Nets 99.5
93 Knicks 99.7
97 Heat 100.6
09 Magic 101.9
00 Pacers 103.6
10 Celtics 103.8
MJ vs 97 Heat
Game 1 15 for 31
Game 2 4 for 15
Game 3 14 for 25
Game 4 9 for 35
Game 5 11 for 31
MJ vs 93 Knicks
Game 1 10 for 27
Game 2 12 for 32
Game 3 3 for 18
Game 4 18 for 30
Game 5 11 for 24
Game 6 8 for 24
When did the ESTIMATED defensive rating have any bearing on how well a guy shoots on any given night???
Kobe has shot like crap against good defenses, bad defenses, mediocre defenses, etc. The fact that he consistently shoots like shit in the Finals is a very telling indicator of his shortcomings on the biggest stage....
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Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
Originally Posted by bwink23
When did the ESTIMATED defensive rating have any bearing on how well a guy shoots on any given night???
Kobe has shot like crap against good defenses, bad defenses, mediocre defenses, etc. The fact that he consistently shoots like shit in the Finals is a very telling indicator of his shortcomings on the biggest stage....
If you dont understand how the strength of defense impacts an individual player's shooting percentage or how defensive rating measures the strength of a defense during that specific year i don't know if I can help you.
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Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot
If you dont understand how the strength of defense impacts an individual player's shooting percentage or how defensive rating measures the strength of a defense during that specific year i don't know if I can help you.
You need to help yourself...those numbers don't mean crap in the playoffs. Your performances is what matters.
Kobe in 2009 playoffs vs. Jazz (10th D)
46.6%FG
Kobe in 2009 playoffs vs. Rockets (4th D)
47.5%FG
There is no direct correlation of how a player shoots vs. Defensive rating you silly goose....
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Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot
If you dont understand how the strength of defense impacts an individual player's shooting percentage or how defensive rating measures the strength of a defense during that specific year i don't know if I can help you.
Kobe vs 2000-01 Spurs (98.0 Def Rtg): 34ppg on 53%FG
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Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
Originally Posted by bwink23
You need to help yourself...those numbers don't mean crap in the playoffs. Your performances is what matters.
Kobe in 2009 playoffs vs. Jazz (10th D)
46.6%FG
Kobe in 2009 playoffs vs. Rockets (4th D)
47.5%FG
There is no direct correlation of how a player shoots vs. Defensive rating you silly goose....
Of course there is. Are you serious?
Defensive rating is derived from holding the opposition from scoring on a per possession basis.
We can bet from here on out Ill take the biggest shot taker against the Nets every game and you can have the biggest shot taker against the 76ers. Whose players do you think are going to shoot the higher percentage?
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Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
Kobe vs 2000-01 Spurs (98.0 Def Rtg): 34ppg on 53%FG
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Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot
What happened in the Finals!?!?
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Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
LOL@ Yao ming's foot using advanced stats when they fit his Kobe slurping agenda. He hates advanced stats when they favor Wade over Kobe though. the irony!
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Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot
See previous post.....by your logic Kobe wouldn't have shot as well against the Rockets as he did vs. the Jazz....that right there throws your argument in the trash....
FACTS REMAIN.....kobe is a career 41%FG shooter in the Finals, period....that SUCKS!!!!!!!!
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Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot
And anyone with a BRAIN knows that the early 90's Knicks were a far greater defensive team than the 2001 76ers EVER were....so take your Dratings and put them in the trash where they belong.
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