Mr. 2/6

[Deuce Bigalow]

'64
Regular season - 36.9 ppg (.524, .531)
Finals - 29.2 ppg (.517, .415)
1-4 series loss

'67
Regular season - 24.3 ppg (.683, .441)
Finals - 17.7 ppg (.560, .306)
4-2 series win

'69
Regular season - 20.5 ppg (.583, .446)
Finals - 11.7 ppg (.500, .375)
3-4 series loss

'70
Regular season - 27.3 ppg (.583, .446)
Finals - 23.3 ppg (.625, .343)
3-4 series loss

'72
Regular season - 14.8 ppg (.649, .422)
Finals - 19.4 ppg (.600, .543)
4-1 series win

'73
Regular season - 13.2 ppg (.727, .510)
Finals - 11.6 ppg (.524, .368)
1-4 series loss

2/6
16-19

The Stilt

[coin24]

That drop off

[DamnMixes]

Stepped his game up in the 72 finals though

[LAZERUSS]

'64
Regular season - 36.9 ppg (.524, .531)
Finals - 29.2 ppg (.517, .415)
1-4 series loss

'67
Regular season - 24.3 ppg (.683, .441)
Finals - 17.7 ppg (.560, .306)
4-2 series win

'69
Regular season - 20.5 ppg (.583, .446)
Finals - 11.7 ppg (.500, .375)
3-4 series loss

'70
Regular season - 27.3 ppg (.583, .446)
Finals - 23.3 ppg (.625, .343)
3-4 series loss

'72
Regular season - 14.8 ppg (.649, .422)
Finals - 19.4 ppg (.600, .543)
4-1 series win

'73
Regular season - 13.2 ppg (.727, .510)
Finals - 11.6 ppg (.524, .368)
1-4 series loss

2/6
16-19

The Stilt

All FINALs too. And, how about these numbers...

'64: outscored his opposing HOF center, 29.2 ppg to 11.2 ppg; outrebounded him, 27.8 rpg to 25.2 rpg; and outshot him from the field, .517 to .386.

'67: outscored his opposing HOF center, 17.5 ppg to 14.3 ppg; outrebounded him, 28.5 rpg to 26.7 rpg; and outshot him from the field, .560 to .343.

'69: outscored his opposing HOF center, 11.7 ppg to 9.0 ppg; outrebounded him, 25.0 to 21.4 rpg; and outshot him from the floor, .500 to .397.

'70: outscored his opposing HOF center, 23.2 ppg to 23.0 ppg; outrebounded him, 24.1 rpg to 10.5 rpg; and outshot him from the field by a .625 to .483 margin.

'72: was outscored by his opposing HOF center, but by only a 20.0 to 19.2 ppg margin (in a season in which he averaged 14.8 ppg); outrebounded him by a 23.2 rpg to 9.8 rpg margin; and outshot him from the field by a .600 to .500 margin (and only .456 after the first half of game one.)

'73: outrebounded his opposing HOF center, 18.6 rpg to 9.2 rpg; and outshot him from the floor, .525 to .493.

And, as always, he OUTSCORED ALL of them from the FT line.


Next...

[Quickening]

[Angel Face]

GOAT scorer tho...

[Cocaine80s]

The GCOAT (Greatest Choker of All Time)

[LAZERUSS]

GOAT scorer tho...

In his "scoring seasons" yes. No doubt.

'60: 75 game regular season, 37.6 ppg; and in his 9 playoff games (6 of which were against RUSSELL and the Celtics)... 33.2 ppg.

'61: 79 game regular season, 38.4 ppg; and in his three playoff games, 37.0 ppg.

'62: In his 80 regular season games, 50.4 ppg; and in his 12 post-season games (7 of which were against RUSSELL and the Celtics)... 35.0 ppg. BTW, against RUSSELL in their 10 regular season H2H's, 39.6 ppg on a .468 FG%. Against RUSSELL in their 7 post-season games, 33.6 ppg on a .468 FG%.

'64: In his 80 regular season games, 36.9 ppg; and in his 12 post-season games (7 against the Hawks... 38.6 ppg, and 5 against RUSSELL, 29.2 ppg)... 34.7 ppg. BTW, against RUSSELL in his 8 regular season H2H's, 29.1 ppg.

'65: In his 73 regular season games, 34.7 ppg; and in his 11 post-season games (7 of which were against RUSSELL)... 29.3 ppg. BTW, in his 8 regular season H2H's with Russell, 25.4 ppg on a .473 FG%. In his 7 post-season H2H's against RUSSELL, 30.,1 ppg on a .555 FG%.

'66: In his 79 regular season games, 33.5 ppg; and in his 5 post-season games (ALL against RUSSELL, whom he had averaged 28.3 ppg against in the regular season)... 28.0 ppg.

Combine those totals each year, and you have the GOAT scorer.


BTW, how come MJ's scoring and FG%'s dropped considerably in his three year run against the prime Bad Boys from '88 thur '90?

Or Shaq's scoring and FG%'s dropping considerably in his battles with Robinson's Spurs from '99 thru '02?

Or KAJ's scoring and FG%'s dropping off the cliff in his post-season play against Chamberlain and Thurmond from '71 thru '73?

[dubeta]

In his "scoring seasons" yes. No doubt.

'60: 75 game regular season, 37.6 ppg; and in his 9 playoff games (6 of which were against RUSSELL and the Celtics)... 33.2 ppg.

'61: 79 game regular season, 38.4 ppg; and in his three playoff games, 37.0 ppg.

'62: In his 80 regular season games, 50.4 ppg; and in his 12 post-season games (7 of which were against RUSSELL and the Celtics)... 35.0 ppg. BTW, against RUSSELL in their 10 regular season H2H's, 39.6 ppg on a .468 FG%. Against RUSSELL in their 7 post-season games, 33.6 ppg on a .468 FG%.

'64: In his 80 regular season games, 36.9 ppg; and in his 12 post-season games (7 against the Hawks... 38.6 ppg, and 5 against RUSSELL, 29.2 ppg)... 34.7 ppg. BTW, against RUSSELL in his 8 regular season H2H's, 29.1 ppg.

'65: In his 73 regular season games, 34.7 ppg; and in his 11 post-season games (7 of which were against RUSSELL)... 29.3 ppg. BTW, in his 8 regular season H2H's with Russell, 25.4 ppg on a .473 FG%. In his 7 post-season H2H's against RUSSELL, 30.,1 ppg on a .555 FG%.

'66: In his 79 regular season games, 33.5 ppg; and in his 5 post-season games (ALL against RUSSELL, whom he had averaged 28.3 ppg against in the regular season)... 28.0 ppg.

Combine those totals each year, and you have the GOAT scorer.


BTW, how come MJ's scoring and FG%'s dropped considerably in his three year run against the prime Bad Boys from '88 thur '90?

Or Shaq's scoring and FG%'s dropping considerably in his battles with Robinson's Spurs from '99 thru '02?

Or KAJ's scoring and FG%'s dropping off the cliff in his post-season play against Chamberlain and Thurmond from '71 thru '73?

This is off topic but do you believe Wilt is clear cut ahead of Jordan all time ?

[Magic 32]

Mr. 2/6 - The Remix

[JohnMax]

Melo also has a big drop off in stats from regular season to playoffs

[LAZERUSS]

'64
Regular season - 36.9 ppg (.524, .531)
Finals - 29.2 ppg (.517, .415)
1-4 series loss

'67
Regular season - 24.3 ppg (.683, .441)
Finals - 17.7 ppg (.560, .306)
4-2 series win

'69
Regular season - 20.5 ppg (.583, .446)
Finals - 11.7 ppg (.500, .375)
3-4 series loss

'70
Regular season - 27.3 ppg (.583, .446)
Finals - 23.3 ppg (.625, .343)
3-4 series loss

'72
Regular season - 14.8 ppg (.649, .422)
Finals - 19.4 ppg (.600, .543)
4-1 series win

'73
Regular season - 13.2 ppg (.727, .510)
Finals - 11.6 ppg (.524, .368)
1-4 series loss

2/6
16-19

The Stilt

You want Finals Flops? How about your boy Kobe?

99-00
Regular season 22.5 ppg .468 FG%
Finals 15.6 ppg .367 FG%
Last Game of Series .296 FG%

00-01
Regular season 28.5 ppg .464 FG%
Finals 24.6 ppg .415 FG%
Last Game of Series .389 FG%

01-02
Regular season 25.2 ppg .469
Finals 26.8 ppg .514 FG%
Last Game of Series .438 FG%

03-04
Regular season 24.0 ppg .438 FG%
Finals 22.6 ppg .381 FG%
Last Game of Series .333 FG%

07-08
Regular season 28.3 ppg .459 FG%
Finals 25.7 ppg .405 FG%
Last Game of Series .318 FG%

08-09
Regular season 26.8 ppg .467 FG%
Finals 32.4 ppg .430 FG%
Last Game of Series .435 FG%

09-10
Regular season 27.0 ppg .456 FG%
Finals 28.6 ppg .405 FG%
Last Game of Series .250 FG%


Other noteables:


97-98
Swept by Utah 4-0.
Kobe averages 10.0 ppg on a .367 FG%

98-99
Swept by San Antonio 4-0
Last game of the series : Kobe 16 points on a .438 FG%

02-03
Lose to Spurs in WCF's, 4-2.
Last game loss by a score of 110-82 (Kobe with 20 points in a season in which he averaged 30 ppg)

03-04 Finals
Heavily favored Lakers lose to Pistons, 4-1.
In the clinching game five loss Kobe shoots .333 in a 100-87 loss (and LA was down 23 going into 4th quarter)

04-05
Team goes 34-48 and misses playoffs

05-06
Regular season 35.4 ppg .450
Playoffs 27.9 ppg .497
Last game (7) 24 points in a 121-90 loss (after blowing a 3-1 series lead)

06-07
Team goes 42-40
Loses in first round to Suns, 4-1.
Last game of that series, Kobe shoots .394 from the floor

07-08
Lakers are blown out by Celts in Finals.
In game four the Lakers blow a 23 point lead, and lose, in a game in which Kobe shot .316 from the field.
In the clinching game six loss, the Lakers lose by a Finals record margin of 131-92. Kobe shoots .318 from the floor.

10-11
Lakers with HCA are swept by the Mavs, 4-0.
In the clinching game four loss, LA loses 122-86. Kobe shoots .389 from the field.

[LAZERUSS]

This is off topic but do you believe Wilt is clear cut ahead of Jordan all time ?

Let me ask you this...

Even given everything we know as far how their talent will play out, BUT, not necessarily what teammates they will have, nor who will coach them...

You are a GM, and you have an opportunity to draft either MJ, or Wilt,...who would you take?

[PsychoBe]

Let me ask you this...

Even given everything we know as far how their talent will play out, BUT, not necessarily what teammates they will have, nor who will coach them...

You are a GM, and you have an opportunity to draft either MJ, or Wilt,...who would you take?

mj easily

[dubeta]

Let me ask you this...

Even given everything we know as far how their talent will play out, BUT, not necessarily what teammates they will have, nor who will coach them...

You are a GM, and you have an opportunity to draft either MJ, or Wilt,...who would you take?

Using that criteria LeBron is top 3 all time and Bill Russell and Kobe are definately not top 10