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    Arrow Michael Jordan was the only LEGIT 1996 FMVP candidate besides Kemp.

    Now that this forum is running rampant with rabid ISH'ers

    Here is a must watch 1996 FMVP highlights of Michael "TWILIGHT YRS" Jordan

    31:37 mins of every highlight worthy play of 33 yrs old Jordan

    why MJ was the only LEGIT Bull to deserve FMVP.

    Game 1 fmvp candidates (winner gets the game)
    1. Kemp: 32 / 2 / 8 @ 9/14 (64%FG) - Terrific Game
    2. Jordan: 28 / 2 / 7 @ 9/18 (50%FG) - Good solid game
    3. Kukoc: 18 / 4 / 4 @ 7/13 (54%FG) - SOLID off the Bench

    Game 2: fmvp candidates winners gets the game
    1. Jordan: 29 / 8 / 6 @ 41%FG
    2. Rodman: 10 / 0 / 20 @ 50%FG

    3. Kemp: 29 / 2 / 13 @ 44%FG

    Game 3: fmvp candidates
    1. Jordan: 36 / 5 / 3 @ 48%FG- GREAT game that sealed the FMVP for MJ. only way MJ was gonna loose FMVP was to Kemp or Payton if Sonics win Game 7 from here on out.

    Till this point Bulls were 3-0!

    Jordan was either "player of the game" or shared "player of the game" with co-starter of Bulls.

    Game 4 was Jordan's first Bad game of this finals & since 1991 finals.
    1. Kemp: 25 / 3 / 11 @ 70%FG: Terrific FMVP game by kemp as sonics won.
    2. Payton: 23/6/9 @ 39%FG
    3. Rodman: 14 rebounds game. Good effort.

    Game 5
    1. Kemp: 22 / 3 / 10 @ 50%FG: FMVP performance in a win.
    2. Jordan: 26 / 1 / 4 @ 50%FG

    Game 6:
    1. Kemp: 18 / 3 / 14 @ 47%FG
    2. Rodman:9 / 5 / 19 @ 44%FG
    3. Jordan: 22 / 7 / 9 @ 34%FG

    Why MJ was the only Bulls the deserved MVP:

    -Pippen, Bulls 2nd best scoring option had HORRIBLE, DISASTEROUS finals. It was pathetic at 15.7 / 8.2 / 5.3 @ 34%FG as he clearly failed to solidify FMVP.

    -Rodman only showed up in 2 games out of possible 6 with GREAT performances. 20 rebounds in game 2 & 19 rebounds in game 6.

    BUT

    Here is a catch. Rodman played GREAT only AT HOME. while Jordan's BEST game of the series was ON THE ROAD where he sealed a 3-0 lead for the Bulls.

    FMVP meter:

    Jordan 3 games.
    Rodman 2 games.
    Kemp 2 games.

    Kemp was the only LEGIT FMVP candidates with GREAT finals stats of 23.3 / 2.2 / 10.00 @ 55%FG for the series.

    followed by

    Jordan: 27.3 / 4.2 / 5.3 @ 42%FG. - FMVP was given to the best player of the winning team.

    Rodman DID NOT even cross 15 rpg ave (14.7) with scoring only 7.5 ppg. Rodman was 2nd best & better than Pippen but clearly wasn't the best player of the Bulls in the Finals series.

    not enough to win an FMVP despite Jordan not BEASTING & DOMINATING finals.
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    Default Re: Michael Jordan was the only LEGIT 1996 FMVP candidate besides Kemp.

    Quote Originally Posted by gengiskhan
    Now that this forum is running rampant with rabid ISH'ers

    Here is a must watch 1996 FMVP highlights of Michael "TWILIGHT YRS" Jordan

    31:37 mins of every highlight worthy play of 33 yrs old Jordan

    why MJ was the only LEGIT Bull to deserve FMVP.

    Game 1 fmvp candidates (winner gets the game)
    1. Kemp: 32 / 2 / 8 @ 9/14 (64%FG) - Terrific Game
    2. Jordan: 28 / 2 / 7 @ 9/18 (50%FG) - Good solid game
    3. Kukoc: 18 / 4 / 4 @ 7/13 (54%FG) - SOLID off the Bench

    Game 2: fmvp candidates winners gets the game
    1. Jordan: 29 / 8 / 6 @ 41%FG
    2. Rodman: 10 / 0 / 20 @ 50%FG

    3. Kemp: 29 / 2 / 13 @ 44%FG

    Game 3: fmvp candidates
    1. Jordan: 36 / 5 / 3 @ 48%FG- GREAT game that sealed the FMVP for MJ. only way MJ was gonna loose FMVP was to Kemp or Payton if Sonics win Game 7 from here on out.

    Till this point Bulls were 3-0!

    Jordan was either "player of the game" or shared "player of the game" with co-starter of Bulls.

    Game 4 was Jordan's first Bad game of this finals & since 1991 finals.
    1. Kemp: 25 / 3 / 11 @ 70%FG: Terrific FMVP game by kemp as sonics won.
    2. Payton: 23/6/9 @ 39%FG
    3. Rodman: 14 rebounds game. Good effort.

    Game 5
    1. Kemp: 22 / 3 / 10 @ 50%FG: FMVP performance in a win.
    2. Jordan: 26 / 1 / 4 @ 50%FG

    Game 6:
    1. Kemp: 18 / 3 / 14 @ 47%FG
    2. Rodman:9 / 5 / 19 @ 44%FG
    3. Jordan: 22 / 7 / 9 @ 34%FG

    Why MJ was the only Bulls the deserved MVP:

    -Pippen, Bulls 2nd best scoring option had HORRIBLE, DISASTEROUS finals. It was pathetic at 15.7 / 8.2 / 5.3 @ 34%FG as he clearly failed to solidify FMVP.

    -Rodman only showed up in 2 games out of possible 6 with GREAT performances. 20 rebounds in game 2 & 19 rebounds in game 6.

    BUT

    Here is a catch. Rodman played GREAT only AT HOME. while Jordan's BEST game of the series was ON THE ROAD where he sealed a 3-0 lead for the Bulls.

    FMVP meter:

    Jordan 3 games.
    Rodman 2 games.
    Kemp 2 games.

    Kemp was the only LEGIT FMVP candidates with GREAT finals stats of 23.3 / 2.2 / 10.00 @ 55%FG for the series.

    followed by

    Jordan: 27.3 / 4.2 / 5.3 @ 42%FG. - FMVP was given to the best player of the winning team.

    Rodman DID NOT even cross 15 rpg ave (14.7) with scoring only 7.5 ppg. Rodman was 2nd best & better than Pippen but clearly wasn't the best player of the Bulls in the Finals series.

    not enough to win an FMVP despite Jordan not BEASTING & DOMINATING finals.
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    Default Re: Michael Jordan was the only LEGIT 1996 FMVP candidate besides Kemp.

    Quote Originally Posted by Magic 32
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    Right?
    reason why Rodman is the PLAYER OF THE GAME 6 with 19 rebounds.

    still

    7.5 ppg from Rodman when Pippen is struggling with 15 ppg @ 34%FG shooting.

    That will never get Rodman MVP especially if he did not average 20-22 rpg for the series.

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan was the only LEGIT 1996 FMVP candidate besides Kemp.

    Quote Originally Posted by gengiskhan
    reason why Rodman is the PLAYER OF THE GAME 6 with 19 rebounds.

    still

    7.5 ppg from Rodman when Pippen is struggling with 15 ppg @ 34%FG shooting.

    That will never get Rodman MVP especially if he did not average 20-22 rpg for the series.
    It wasnt based on Rodmans ppg. His rehounding was outstanding. He had Kemp visibly flustered. I believe he avgd around 4 assists as well.

    Back on Kemp. Most of his points were in garbage time. When the game was well in hand. Id even go so far to say as far as performance, It was Rodman, Jordan, Longley, Kukoc, then Pippen. Both Longley and Kukoc played well during that series.

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan was the only LEGIT 1996 FMVP candidate besides Kemp.

    Wonder what would of happened if GP was on Jordan the whole series.

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan was the only LEGIT 1996 FMVP candidate besides Kemp.

    In the 3 complete games Payton guarded Jordan, the Sonics won 2 of them. Jordan was actually terrible that series, especially from the 2nd half of game 3 on. He took terrible shots, Payton's in your face D made Jordan do stupid things, and Jordan was also uncharacteristically missing open jump shots.

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan was the only LEGIT 1996 FMVP candidate besides Kemp.

    Quote Originally Posted by D.J.
    In the 3 complete games Payton guarded Jordan, the Sonics won 2 of them. Jordan was actually terrible that series, especially from the 2nd half of game 3 on. He took terrible shots, Payton's in your face D made Jordan do stupid things, and Jordan was also uncharacteristically missing open jump shots.
    When MJ is hounded by terrific defense. Pippen as usual disappeared. for 2nd best scorer of a team to ave 15 ppg is PATHETIC. That could've affected MJ mentally.

    This was the series 31 yrs old Pippen needed to score 21-22 ppg. BUT he looked like he AGED more than MJ.

    GP was 25. youth, athleticism, rock solid DPOY skills will make 33 yrs old TWILIGHT jordan take weird shots & miss easy ones.

    Bulls 2nd best all-star FAILED to step up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 97 bulls
    It wasnt based on Rodmans ppg. His rehounding was outstanding. He had Kemp visibly flustered. I believe he avgd around 4 assists as well.

    Back on Kemp. Most of his points were in garbage time. When the game was well in hand. Id even go so far to say as far as performance, It was Rodman, Jordan, Longley, Kukoc, then Pippen. Both Longley and Kukoc played well during that series.
    Rodman's rebounding is OVERBLOWN

    Rodman only averaged 14.5 rpg.

    Its amazing people act like he averaged 17-20 rpg & had a TERRIFIC FMVP series.

    He didn't

    Infact, in seattle Rodman had 12, 9 rebounds.

    for a ONE TRICK PONY who did not block any shots at age 34. its not good enough to win a series.

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan was the only LEGIT 1996 FMVP candidate besides Kemp.

    Quote Originally Posted by gengiskhan
    When MJ is hounded by terrific defense. Pippen as usual disappeared. for 2nd best scorer of a team to ave 15 ppg is PATHETIC. That could've affected MJ mentally.

    This was the series 31 yrs old Pippen needed to score 21-22 ppg. BUT he looked like he AGED more than MJ.

    GP was 25. youth, athleticism, rock solid DPOY skills will make 33 yrs old TWILIGHT jordan take weird shots & miss easy ones.

    Bulls 2nd best all-star FAILED to step up.
    Pippen was playing hurt. Was this thread made to bash Pippen? Or discuss who was most deserving of the finals MVP in 96

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan was the only LEGIT 1996 FMVP candidate besides Kemp.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
    Wonder what would of happened if GP was on Jordan the whole series.
    Nothing.

    GP would've burned out till Game 4.

    You gotta understand, MJ did score a 50%FG in seattle ON THE ROAD on him.

    You can physically harrass & hound MJ with in-your-face D & payton is terrific at that.

    But eventually you'll burn out.

    I believe Game 6 was the last game Payton would've played that Physical.

    If there was a game 7, MJ would've come back with another 50%FG shooting night.

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan was the only LEGIT 1996 FMVP candidate besides Kemp.

    Quote Originally Posted by 97 bulls
    Pippen was playing hurt. Was this thread made to bash Pippen? Or discuss who was most deserving of the finals MVP in 96
    Pippen has always been hurt.

    He was hurt in 1997 NBA finals.

    His back was hurt in 1998 NBA Finals.

    Those are not excuses. 15 ppg is way too low for Top 5 players in the game as a 2nd option.

    reality is 31 yrs old Pippen was AGING pretty fast offensively. That put INCREDIBLE pressure on 33-35 yrs old MJ as Rodman was Rebounding specialist, a ONE TRICK PONY.

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan was the only LEGIT 1996 FMVP candidate besides Kemp.

    Quote Originally Posted by gengiskhan
    Rodman's rebounding is OVERBLOWN

    Rodman only averaged 14.5 rpg.

    Its amazing people act like he averaged 17-20 rpg & had a TERRIFIC FMVP series.

    He didn't

    Infact, in seattle Rodman had 12, 9 rebounds.

    for a ONE TRICK PONY who did not block any shots at age 34. its not good enough to win a series.
    Thats a hell of alot of boards for that time period. And so what he didnt get a large amount of rebounds in two games. For the series, he played great. Youre being unreasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 97 bulls
    Thats a hell of alot of boards for that time period. And so what he didnt get a large amount of rebounds in two games. For the series, he played great. Youre being unreasonable.
    Jordan played 3 SOLID games out of 6 games.

    & his best game of the series was the ROAD game 3.

    That gave Bulls 3-0 lead!

    MJ was clearly still the best player of the series for the Bulls.

    Rodman was still 2nd best.

    Anyone who say, Rodman won the series with 14.5 rpg / 7.5 ppg is retarded.

    Rodman atleast needed to average DOUBLE DOUBLE to win FMVP over MJ. the way Pippen was tanking.

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan was the only LEGIT 1996 FMVP candidate besides Kemp.

    Rodman singlehandedly won 2 games that series. George Karl even admitted it.

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan was the only LEGIT 1996 FMVP candidate besides Kemp.

    Quote Originally Posted by gengiskhan
    Pippen has always been hurt.

    He was hurt in 1997 NBA finals.

    His back was hurt in 1998 NBA Finals.

    Those are not excuses. 15 ppg is way too low for Top 5 players in the game as a 2nd option.

    reality is 31 yrs old Pippen was AGING pretty fast offensively. That put INCREDIBLE pressure on 33-35 yrs old MJ as Rodman was Rebounding specialist, a ONE TRICK PONY.
    Its not an excuse. Its a reason. The same way for Bird, Wade, etc. Perhaps if Pippen decided to take a couple years off he could have allowed his body to heal and come back fresh. From 90 to 00, Pippens teams advanced deep into the playoffs. And he played in two Olympics.

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