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    Default Re: Any NHL fans? Teach me hockey.

    I was never into hockey. Until I got a work-study job during my undergrad years at Schneider Arena, home of the Hockey East's Providence College Friars.

    College hockey is fantastic. I learned absolutely everything about the game watching some of the best college programs in the nation every weekend and that, in 2003, finally converted me into the Bruins fan my father always wished I would become.

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    Default Re: Any NHL fans? Teach me hockey.

    -How would the KHL compare to NHL? Euroleague to NBA?

    I'd say more CFL to NFL considering the size of the ice

    -What are the GOAT players in NHL history?

    It would have to be between Gretzky or Lemuiex. Gretzky holds the most records but Lemeuix was the better all around Physical talent, he just had health issues.
    Bobby Orr is considered by many hardcore hockey heads as being an innovator at the defensive position.
    Gordie Howe had the longevity and held many records until Gretzky broke them.
    Partick Roy is considered the greatest Goalie who ever lived, but Marty may surpass that.
    I'd give the nod to Gretzky for the fact he had more assists than any other player had points. That and he's the record holder for athlete who holds the most records


    -Current players that are all-time greats?

    Besides the obvious with Crosby, Malkin, and Ovechkin, the ones who have cemented a HOF career:

    Martin Broduer
    Jerome Iginla
    Daniel Alfredsson
    Chris Pronger
    Joe Thorton
    Marian Hossa
    Jaromir Jagr


    -Most/least successful franchises?

    Most: Detroit Red Wings, Montreal Canadiens
    Least: Winnipeg/Pheonix, Toronto


    -Top 10 players and their teams today?

    1- Sidney Crosby, Pittsburgh Penguins
    2- Evgeny Malkin, Pittsburgh Penguins
    3- Steve Stamkos, Tampa Bay Lightning
    4- Henry Lunqvist, NY Rangers
    5- Daniel Sedin, Vancouver Canucks
    6- Henrik Sedin, Vancouver Canucks
    7- Claude Giroux, Philadelphia Flyers
    8- Zdeno Chara, Boston Bruins
    9- Shea Weber, Nashville Predators
    10- Alexandre Ovechkin, Washington Capitals

    Honorable: Eric Staal, Rick Nash, Marian Goborik, Drew Doubty, Pekka Rinne, Jonathan Quick, Zak Parise, Pavel Datsyuk, Jonathan Toews, Ilya Kovalchuk


    -If the OT/shootout breaks a tie then why does the team record have a x-y-z format?

    1 point for tie in regualation, etra point for OT win or SO win.
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    Default Re: Any NHL fans? Teach me hockey.

    Quote Originally Posted by irondarts
    Ovie?
    Ovie is barely top 10. He hasn't been the same in a couple of years. Think allen Iverson type drop off
    Although I have him in my top 10 still on pure talent
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    Quote Originally Posted by hateraid
    -How would the KHL compare to NHL? Euroleague to NBA?

    I'd say more CFL to NFL considering the size of the ice

    -What are the GOAT players in NHL history?

    It would have to be between Gretzky or Lemuiex. Gretzky holds the most records but Lemeuix was the better all around Phisycal talent, he just had health issues.
    Bobby Orr is considered by many hardcore hockey heads as being an innovator at the defensive position.
    Gordie Howe had the longevity and held many records until Gretzky broke them.
    Partick Roy is considered the greatest Goalie who ever lived, but Marty may surpass that.
    I'd give the nod to Gretzky for the fact he had more assists than any other player had points. That and he's the record holder for athlete who holds the most records


    -Current players that are all-time greats?

    Besides the obvious with Crosby, Malkin, and Ovechkin, the ones who have cemented a HOF career:

    Martin Broduer
    Jerome Iginla
    Daniel Alfredsson
    Chris Pronger
    Joe Throton
    Marian Hossa


    -Most/least successful franchises?

    Most: Detroit Red Wings, Montreal Canadiens
    Least: Winnipeg/Pheonix, Toronto


    -Top 10 players and their teams today?

    1- Sidney Crosby, Pittsburgh Penguins
    2- Evgeny Malkin, Pittsburgh Penguins
    3- Steve Stamkos, Tampa Bay Lightning
    4- Henry Lunqvist, NY Rangers
    5- Daniel Sedin, Vancouver Canucks
    6- Henrik Sedin, Vancouver Canucks
    7- Claude Giroux, Philadelphia Flyers
    8- Zdeno Chara, Boston Bruins
    9- Shea Weber, Nashville Predators
    10- Alexandre Ovechkin, Washington Capitals

    Honorable: Eric Staal, Rick Nash, Marian Goborik, Drew Doubty, Pekka Rinne, Jonathan Quick, Zak Parise, Pavel Datsyuk, Jonathan Toews


    -If the OT/shootout breaks a tie then why does the team record have a x-y-z format?

    1 point for tie in regualation, etra point for OT win or SO win.
    Jagr is also a Hall of Famer

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    Default Re: Any NHL fans? Teach me hockey.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skywalker
    I like the SENS and STARS.

    If you ever wanna be entertained by hockey watch #65 for Ottawa, Erik Karlsson. Best offensive defenseman in a long time, gets the puck in own zone and skates past everyone to create scoring chance at other end. Takes risks on D to create offensive chances, and usually recovers because of his speed when his gamble fails.
    Karlsson is different, but I wouldn't put him in top 10 in the league. He's more similar to Drew Doughty on impact on the ice, but Doughty is a better two way player. Karlsson I would put ahead of Zdeno or Weber as a better all around player. Karlsson is great one way but a liabilty on the other end.


    But I still love his game.

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    Default Re: Any NHL fans? Teach me hockey.

    Quote Originally Posted by irondarts
    Jagr is also a Hall of Famer

    that's right, can't forget him, although his current injury status may put him into retirment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hateraid
    Ovue is barely top 10. He hasn't been the same in a couple of years. Think allen Iverson type drop off
    Although I have him in my top 10 still on pure talent
    Ovie has had one down year (last year). Two years ago he had less goals but still had 85 points in 79 games, which is damn good.

    One down year doesn't justify him going from the 2nd best player in the NHL to out of the Top 10, he's still Top 10, probably Top 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMV2
    Gonna try and guess those teams without googling.

    Top row: Anaheim Ducks, Boston Bruins, Buffalo Sabers, Calgary Flames, Carolina Hurricanes
    Second row after: Chicago Blackhawks, Colorado Avalanche, Columbus (don't know their nickname, lol), Dallas Stars, Detroit Red Wings
    Third row: Edmonton Oilers, Florida Panthers, LA Kings, Minnesota (don't know their nicks), Montreal Canadiens.
    Fourth Row: Nashville Predators, NJ Devils, NY Islanders, NY Rangers, Ottawa Senators.
    Fifth Row: Philadelphia Flyers, Phoenix Coyotes, Pittsburgh Penguins, St. Louis Blues, San Jose Sharks
    Last Row: Tampa Bay Lightning, Toronto Maple Leafs, Vancouver Canucks, Washington Capitals, Winnipeg Jets

    So I missed two nicknames(Columbus and Minnesota). Not bad for a non-NHL fan.
    Correct on all of them.

    Also, it's Columbus Blue Jackets and Minnesota Wild

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    Thanks for the input everyone. Also thanks for the updated logos!

    Random questions more:

    -Can someone describe the positions and their importances more?
    -How many players on a team? How do rotations/lineups/subs work?
    -How many black dudes in league?
    -Is there any sort of US vs. Canada rivalry in the league?
    -What are contracts like for players of elite, star, mid-level, average joe status?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Rose
    Thanks for the input everyone. Also thanks for the updated logos!

    Random questions more:

    -Can someone describe the positions and their importances more?
    -How many players on a team? How do rotations/lineups/subs work?
    -How many black dudes in league?
    -Is there any sort of US vs. Canada rivalry in the league?
    -What are contracts like for players of elite, star, mid-level, average joe status?
    Three Forwards...typically faster guys who puck handle and spend their time trying to score.
    Two Defenders...bigger guys who stop Forwards.
    One Goalie...stand in net, don't let puck in.

    Forward lines sub in and out more frequently than defensive lines do because Forwards spend more time skating in crazy fast bursts and get tired quicker. How the lines are built is different depending on the coach's style and the players' strengths and weaknesses. They can rotate in and out differently at different times of the game depending on what you need in the moment.

    One black in the League is PK Subban, defenseman for the Montreal Canadiens and he is a complete shit who no one likes. His kid brother is a goalie in the minors.

    Not til the Olympics.

    They're completely crazy. With the new CBA, I dunno how contracts have changed...but some if these guys are on 10+ year deals with pay scales that are front/back/middle loaded.

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    Thanks Derka

    Just watched last 5 minutes or so of 3rd period of Bruins vs. Hurricanes. Very tense ending, love the fast pace nature of the sport.

    -Those two superstars on the Canucks are brothers?
    -What's the longest contracts given out? I thought I saw something about a 20 year one once on sportscenter.

    I'm probably going to the Stars-Blackhawks game over my spring break on 3/16 in dallas with a buddy of mine who is a NHL fanatic and Ducks fan.

    I feel like a kid who just got a toy store for christmas..i wanna learn this shit good

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    Go B's

    Yeah, the Sedin's are the NHL's resident twin sisters. That's right...sisters. Pure skill players, but both are complete cunnies; equivalent to a flopper in the NBA.

    Alex Ovechkin signed a 13-year deal that's worth about $9.5 million per year...currently the richest contract in the NHL, I think. I remember the 20-year deal, but I forget who got it.

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    Damn that's a crazy ass contract...

    Oh and what are the different nationalities of players? Which are the best in certain (like skill or brute force) areas? What stereotypes do some nationalities carry for players?

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    Default Re: Any NHL fans? Teach me hockey.

    There's 3 black guys that I know of PK subban, Joel ward and wayne Simmons.

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    Default Re: Any NHL fans? Teach me hockey.

    There's a lot of NHL players who are mixed, such as:

    Jarome Iginla (Clagary Flames)
    Evander Kane (Winnipeg Jets)
    Kyle Okposo (New York Islanders)
    Jamal Mayers (Chicago Blackhawks)
    Anthony Stewart (Los Angeles Kings)
    Chris Stewart (St. Louis Blues)
    Joel Ward (Washington Capitals)
    Dustin Byfuglien (Winnipeg Jets)

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