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    Default Re: Here's audio of SVG saying the plan was to let Lebron score in 09' ECF

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Feeny
    Who on earth was Dwight' second option? Yet he beat lebron' Cavs as the lower seed.
    Jordan would have comfortably won the 2009 series because I believe that any top 5 ATG would have won it.
    Except you always say LeBron is top 3.

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    Default Re: Here's audio of SVG saying the plan was to let Lebron score in 09' ECF

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    Doesn't matter - the Cavs were a great defensive team, better than the 89' Bulls

    All those Cavs teams were great defensive teams (Mike Brown's call card) - that's how they took the 08' Celts 7 games despite horrific efficiency from lebron (26 on 35%)

    Also, baby Pip wasn't a great defender in 89' - as you can see, he wasn't shit in 89'
    Pistons in the 89 ECF shot 42% and 24% from 3

    Magic in the 09 ECSF shot 48% and 41% from 3.


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    Default Re: Here's audio of SVG saying the plan was to let Lebron score in 09' ECF

    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3
    Except you always say LeBron is top 3.
    Google "non-sequiter"

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    Default Re: Here's audio of SVG saying the plan was to let Lebron score in 09' ECF

    Quote Originally Posted by bigkingsfan
    Ordan highest playoff series - swept.

    Lebron in the Finals = swept twice.

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    Default Re: Here's audio of SVG saying the plan was to let Lebron score in 09' ECF

    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo
    Pistons in the 89 ECF shot 42% and 24% from 3

    Magic in the 09 ECSF shot 48% and 41% from 3.


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    Just to add to this:
    Pistons ORtg regular season 110.8, against Bulls 107.9.
    Magic ORtg regular season 109.2 , against Cavaliers 113.3.

    Of course we all know that regular season performance is more meaningful than the actual performance in the series.

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    Default Re: Here's audio of SVG saying the plan was to let Lebron score in 09' ECF

    Quote Originally Posted by Ainosterhaspie
    Just to add to this:
    Pistons ORtg regular season 110.8, against Bulls 107.9.
    Magic ORtg regular season 109.2 , against Cavaliers 113.3.

    Of course we all know that regular season performance is more meaningful than the actual performance in the series.
    When a player passes out of a double team, the defense must rotate and recover as the ball is swung around - double teams spur ball movement because that's how you beat them, and ball movement makes defenses work harder.

    MJ was facing the Jordan Rules, aka double-teams - so when mj gave up the ball after being doubled, the Pistons were having to rotate hard on defense to recover, thus wearing them out and blunting their offensive attack somewhat - the Jordan Rules were tiring to execute (Pistons had to work harder against mj defensively), which took away from their offensive burst

    Otoh, Lebron faces no doubles/straight-up defense because he isn't a pure shooter and is often not a threat for a high shot attempts (passive) - so the straight-up defenses he faces (no hard rotations necessary) are fresh and therefore have more capacity to get hot offensively

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    Default Re: Here's audio of SVG saying the plan was to let Lebron score in 09' ECF

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    When a player passes out of a double team, the defense must rotate and recover as the ball is swung around - double teams spur ball movement because that's how you beat them, and ball movement makes defenses work harder.

    MJ was facing the Jordan Rules, aka double-teams - so when mj gave up the ball after being doubled, the Pistons were having to rotate hard on defense to recover, thus wearing them out and blunting their offensive attack somewhat - the Jordan Rules were tiring to execute (Pistons had to work harder against mj defensively), which took away from their offensive burst

    Otoh, Lebron faces no doubles/straight-up defense because he isn't a pure shooter and is often not a threat for a high shot attempts (passive) - so the straight-up defenses he faces (no hard rotations necessary) are fresh and therefore have more capacity to get hot offensively
    The difference was defense you halfwit (and I'm being generous with that). Same offense for Lakers and Cavaliers, terrible defense by Cavaliers. That's the story, it's not that Kobe broke down the Magic better on offense, he didn't. His offense was the same. There's a massive gap between their defenses, there's almost no gap between their offenses.

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    Default Re: Here's audio of SVG saying the plan was to let Lebron score in 09' ECF

    Quote Originally Posted by sportjames23
    Lebron in the Finals = swept twice.
    He's your GOAT, not mine.

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