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03-14-2012, 06:31 PM
#256
Nuggets/Avs/Broncos.
Re: Mike D Antoni resigns as Head coach of the Knicks!
Originally Posted by Jasi
I wonder if all the Melo haters talking about isos have ever watched Melo play with Nuggets pre-Billups.
It's people being stupid thinking ISO automatically = killing ball movement. Melo doesn't kill ball movement, or he never use too. He'd willingly pass out of the double teams, quite well actually.
Doesn't mean he's not very good at ISOing and doesn't do it alot. Just didn't work with Mike D.
Regardless of systems, players etc. gotta think a new coach is going to help either since by the sounds of it everybody was tuning him out
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03-14-2012, 06:36 PM
#257
Get RED
Re: Mike D Antoni resigns as Head coach of the Knicks!
Originally Posted by Jasi
I wonder if all the Melo haters talking about isos have ever watched Melo play with Nuggets pre-Billups.
This Melo isn't the same "pre-Billups Melo"
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03-14-2012, 06:41 PM
#258
National High School Star
Re: Mike D Antoni resigns as Head coach of the Knicks!
Get ready for a lot of ISO Melo with Woodson. Melo is gonna love it. Lin is gonna hate it.
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03-14-2012, 06:42 PM
#259
Quality?
Re: Mike D Antoni resigns as Head coach of the Knicks!
Originally Posted by GMAC
This Melo isn't the same "pre-Billups Melo"
The Dumbtoni Melo sure isn't.
But there's no reason to think that he cannot get back to his former self with a bette coach now.
It's not like he's 35.
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03-14-2012, 06:44 PM
#260
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Re: Mike D Antoni resigns as Head coach of the Knicks!
Originally Posted by Jasi
The Dumbtoni Melo sure isn't.
But there's no reason to think that he cannot get back to his former self with a bette coach now.
It's not like he's 35.
still out of shape tho
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03-14-2012, 06:44 PM
#261
Local High School Star
Re: Mike D Antoni resigns as Head coach of the Knicks!
Originally Posted by Reverend Hoops
Get ready for a lot of ISO Melo with Woodson. Melo is gonna love it. Lin is gonna hate it.
can't wait to see the reaction of the crowd/announcers if thats the case
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03-14-2012, 06:45 PM
#262
Get RED
Re: Mike D Antoni resigns as Head coach of the Knicks!
Originally Posted by Jasi
The Dumbtoni Melo sure isn't.
But there's no reason to think that he cannot get back to his former self with a bette coach now.
It's not like he's 35.
He averaged 26ppg last year after the trade to the Knicks, playing "Dumbtoni" ball. What's this talk about getting back to his former self?
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03-14-2012, 06:51 PM
#263
Re: Mike D Antoni resigns as Head coach of the Knicks!
Originally Posted by GMAC
He averaged 26ppg last year after the trade to the Knicks, playing "Dumbtoni" ball. What's this talk about getting back to his former self?
we just played random ball after the trade last season. basically billups would bring the ball up and pass to melo on his right just like he did for 2 years in denver. this year was different. this year we tried to first make melo a point forward which didn't work because he doesn't have the ball handling skills of a point guard where he can just keep doing pick and rolls after pick and rolls, so the possessions would degenerate into melo isos. then lin came along and they tried to stick him on the wing as a three point spacer which is marginalizing him.
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03-14-2012, 06:55 PM
#264
Local High School Star
Re: Mike D Antoni resigns as Head coach of the Knicks!
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03-14-2012, 06:56 PM
#265
7-time NBA All-Star
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03-14-2012, 07:02 PM
#266
Quality?
Re: Mike D Antoni resigns as Head coach of the Knicks!
Originally Posted by GMAC
He averaged 26ppg last year after the trade to the Knicks, playing "Dumbtoni" ball. What's this talk about getting back to his former self?
Scoring has never been a problem.
We weren't talking about Melo scoring vs Melo non scoring but about Melo isoing vs Melo not isoing
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03-14-2012, 07:05 PM
#267
Re: Mike D Antoni resigns as Head coach of the Knicks!
Scoring is definitely a problem for Melo right now. He has no explosiveness around the rim.
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03-14-2012, 07:15 PM
#268
High School Starter
Last edited by bigt; 03-14-2012 at 07:18 PM.
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03-14-2012, 07:21 PM
#269
Local High School Star
Re: Mike D Antoni resigns as Head coach of the Knicks!
Coach D'Antoni @Coach_D_Antoni
I love the All-Star Game because you see players do things you didn't think we're possible...like Carmelo playing less defense.
a ton of gems even though its fake :
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03-14-2012, 07:23 PM
#270
NBA lottery pick
Re: Mike D Antoni resigns as Head coach of the Knicks!
Originally Posted by NuggetsFan
It's people being stupid thinking ISO automatically = killing ball movement. Melo doesn't kill ball movement, or he never use too. He'd willingly pass out of the double teams, quite well actually.
Doesn't mean he's not very good at ISOing and doesn't do it alot. Just didn't work with Mike D.
Regardless of systems, players etc. gotta think a new coach is going to help either since by the sounds of it everybody was tuning him out
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...&postcount=144
I'm gonna quote myself
One thing is passing when being double teamed, other is running the offense, D'Antoni didn't get that.
Again everyone says Melo Kills Ball movement, you have a coach that April 2011, says Melo should have the ball more, same coach 2012 makes Melo the PG of the team, and it's all Melo fault.
People are talking how last game when Fields was unable to feed Melo on the post, it was because he wasn't supposed to be there!! You got a player like Melo, in a mismatch with a a guy half his size, and the ball doesn't go to him because he wasn't supposed to be there? L O L
Are people really blaming Melo for posting 1 time during the whole game? Pretty sure we are talking about the same people that bashed D'Antoni left and right because Gallinari spent 90% of his time behind the 3 point line and did nothing else.
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