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Old 09-21-2017, 04:15 PM   #18
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Default Re: MVP & DPOY 2017 Edition

Originally Posted by ~primetime~ you are basing your judgement of them on previous years then correct?

And winning their opener against a playoff team, retention of key pieces, having top 3 qb.

Originally Posted by ~primetime~
I understand wins point is that we do not yet know if the Lions have it easy or hard compared to the rest of the NFL. It is a certainty that at least some NFL teams are currently being falsely perceived and also a certainty that injuries will affect the landscape.

What NFL Power rankings look like now, and what they look like at the end of the year will be very different. Some good teams will hold their ground, some will not.

i get that too. and this has nothing to do how the lions SOS matches up to the rest of the league. the teams i listed will be tough games for the lions to win based on how teams look right now. if they can't win those games, then stafford won't have a shot at the mvp pretty much regardless of the stats he puts up
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