What is the differences between Manu Ginobli and Kobe Bryant?

[plowking]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT2y3N9sBu8
look at 1:03.

Manu owning Kobe.

Kobe gets the numbers because he always goes for the kill, while Manu coasts and then pulls out the dagger 3s and drives in the 4th quarter if he needs them. In the 4th quarter I would rather have Ginobli than Kobe, seeing as he is less likely to throw up a fadeaway 3 with a hand in his face, and more likely to pass instead of go one on 5, and he is statistically more likely to hit his freethrows, and also shoots 57% in the last 5 minutes of games compared to Kobe shooting 48%.

No one cares. He is not better then him, Wade, Mcgrady and maybe a few others.

[gts]

I think the more important question here 1000yearsofPAIN is why do you have an avatar of a guy about to stick his fingers up another guys a$$

[ronnymac]

That is one finals and it might have been a fluke and possibly ref aided, compared to Ginobli and Bryant's multiple finals appearances.

More like mavs choking and wade taking over.

[KINGK]

36 second point- Kobe destroys Manu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5Ir63-4upY

[Scott Pippen]

this is joke topic?

[ronnymac]

No one cares. He is not better then him, Wade, Mcgrady and maybe a few others.

AI and even joe Johonson has a case. JJ is a terrefic defender and scorer.

[plowking]

That is one finals and it might have been a fluke and possibly ref aided, compared to Ginobli and Bryant's multiple finals appearances.

How was it ref aided?

Suns fans will complain to you that the Spurs getting in the finals was ref aided. How about Kobe in the series against Sacremento? Ref aided as well. Everything is ref aided.

Get over it. They are official.

Ginobli has never been the best on his team. Duncan is the reason they get there.

Fluke? So you just happen to luckily get 35 points, 9 rebounds, and 4 assists per game? You just happened to have been the most efficient player in a finals series ever through luck?

Now that is just plain stupid. I think that 1000 years of pain you experienced has done something to your head.

[plowking]

I think the more important question here 1000yearsofPAIN is why do you have an avatar of a guy about to stick his fingers up another guys a$$

This is the 1000 years of pain he himself experienced.

[bladefd]

Kobe/Manu were the best 2 SGs in the last 5 years? Somebody is forgetting Dwayne Wade here. What about a guy named Allen Iverson? Richard Hamilton? Tracy McGrady? Do any 3 of those players ring a bell?

Honestly with sarcasm aside, I would say Kobe/Wade were the best 2 SGs in the past 3 years(Before that, AI was up there too in his prime w/ Philly). Manu is not close, and it is almost an insult to put him in the same breath as Kobe/Wade/AI/T-Mac.

[juju151111]

That is one finals and it might have been a fluke and possibly ref aided, compared to Ginobli and Bryant's multiple finals appearances.

lol u think he better then wade too.lmfao

[juju151111]

How was it ref aided?

Suns fans will complain to you that the Spurs getting in the finals was ref aided. How about Kobe in the series against Sacremento? Ref aided as well. Everything is ref aided.

Get over it. They are official.

Ginobli has never been the best on his team. Duncan is the reason they get there.

Fluke? So you just happen to luckily get 35 points, 9 rebounds, and 4 assists per game? You just happened to have been the most efficient player in a finals series ever through luck?

Now that is just plain stupid. I think that 1000 years of pain you experienced has done something to your head.

[1000yearsofPAIN]

MacGrady? MacGrady who? Do you mean this guy?

Also what have any of those guys like AI or Joe Johnson done that compares to Ginobli's 3 rings?

[big baller]

kobe>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>manu

[highwhey]

LOL @ this topic. Overrating of Manu continues.

^^^

wow...just wow...Manu is officially the most overrated (currently playing) nba player.

[starface]

THis is the thing:

Kobe CAN be a better player than Manu in pretty much every aspect. When he wants to be, he can be a better shooter, better passer, more dangerous with the ball, etc. than Manu. THe problem is, sometimes he doesnt take good shots. Sometimes he doesnt make the right pass. Sometimes he gets too carried away trying to go to the rim.

Kobe doesnt always choose to play the right way, while Manu generally does. This is what closes the gap as the OP is getting at. Kobe tries too hard to live up to being a superstar on the court rather than just winning. Not to mention that putting aside the "team player vs. talent" argument, Manu is a damn good individual talent. The dude has real game. ANd let's acknowledge the elephant in the room here, a lot of people hesitate to put him up there with Kobe, Wade, and McGrady because they inherently doubt that he can be as good as them at their best because he is white.

I agree that Kobe has the ability to be the best swingman in the game, easily. Altho I don't see how people can honestly put Manu below Wade or She-Mac. Wade has no range and She-Mac is a gutless slouch. Manu is at LEAST effective as either of them, and often times is much more effective.

As far as Kobe and Manu, it really comes down to consistency. Kobe isnt consistent, Manu is. By consistent I mean Kobe could easily shut down all competition for "best player" if he only wanted to make a little bit of sacrifice from the high-light reel and just do whats best for the team. He doesnt always do that, so it lessens his team value, IMO. That's just how I see it.