Kobe Bryant scores 61 points against Knicks in Madison Square Garden

[OldSchoolBBall]

That question was framed by Showtime -- he's the one who refereed to MJ.

AND if you look at my response, EVERYTHING that I said was about Kobe. Never made any comparison to MJ with regards to playoff stats.

I understand the question was framed by him. My point is that one cannot be asked a direct question about a comparison between two people and then respond to that question without implicitly referring to one of the people being compared.

[snipes12]

the kobe and lebron topic is really a post flooder in ish , and the man just scored
60 +, was that a big deal ?

[Twiens]

Option E: Pass the ball to Slava Medvedenko...so he can brick it.

Typo?

[rox fa sho]

the kobe and lebron topic is really a post flooder in ish , and the man just scored
60 +, was that a big deal ?

60+ pts is no joke. when kobe starts doing 60 every game then its a joke.

[LakersLaLaLand]

Option E: Pass the ball to Slava Medvedenko...so he can MAKE it.

Typo?

Fixed. Sorry twiens.

[Da_Realist]

I only saw Kobe with ONE forced shot the entire night. He did whatever he wanted on the court. The Knicks were completely helpless.

As "great" as LeBron is, he can't touch Kobe offensively. The mid-range game + footwork is what separates Kobe from everyone else in the league, including Wade and LeBron.

LeBron will either drive on you (iso or high screen) or when his shot is on, he will stroke the three. He has NOTHING in-between.

And Kobe can't touch Lebron's all-around game. It'll be easier for Lebron to score 61 than it would be for Kobe to post Lebron's numbers for a whole season.

It's called "perspective" people.

[kidachi]

hes better then all of them. the G.O.A.T
61 pts in 37 minutes.

what? you've never heard the 99 point night of Jordan? he did it in 15mins.

[Psileas]

Originally Posted by 243354
Kobes the Oldest player to score 60 points. Only player over 30 to score 60.

No, actually Wilt has the record, since he scored 60+ twice at an older age than Kobe. Also, Tom Chambers was a few months older when he went for 60.

Having said that, Bynum's injury, the level of some of the following opponents and the fact that Kobe usually is at his hottest during January-February will surely provide him with some chances to have additional huge scoring nights, so stay tuned.

[gpfanz]

what? you've never heard the 99 point night of Jordan? he did it in 15mins.

NBA Live 2020?

[dr.hee]

kobe> jordan
kobe=G.O.A.T
kobe has 5 60+ games.

Kobe 27/5.5/5
Wade 28.5/5/7
Lebron 28/7.5/7.5

Now I'm no Kobe hater, but given the stats above...is there a RATIONAL explanation why Kobe is so much better than the other guys to you? I think Kobe's production would be better with a worse team, 30/6/5 sound realistic to me. But that doesn't put him above Wade and James in terms of production and impact on a game.
So for a guy like me who doesn't support a winning team or a top 3 player, why should I believe that Kobe is miles above Wade and Lebron?

[Da_Realist]

Kobes the Oldest player to score 60 points. Only player over 30 to score 60.

has the most 60 point games for 1 player since 1968 (40 years).

kobe - 5

jordan - 4

rest of the players that scored 60+ since 1968 tied with 1.

the G.O.A.T

Tale of the tape.

Michael Jordan

April 20, 1986
63 vs Boston
Also had 5 rebs and 6 asts
Boston won 67 games in 86
Went on to become NBA Champions
** Happened in the playoffs

March 4, 1987
61 vs Detroit
He also had 7 rebs, 3 asts, 3 stls and 3 blks
Detroit won 52 games in 87
Playoff team

April 16, 1987
61 vs Atlanta
Also had 10 rebs, 1 ast, 4 stls and 1 blk
Atlanta won 57 games in 87
Playoff team

March 28, 1990
69 vs Cleveland
Also had 18 rebs, 6 asts, 4 stls and 1 blk
Cleveland won 42 games in 90
Playoff team

January 16, 1993
64 vs Orlando
Also had 6 rebs, 1 ast and 5 stls
Orlando won 41 games in 1993

Kobe Bryant

January 22, 2006
81 vs Toronto
Also had 6 rebs, 2 asts, 3 stls and 1 blk
Toronto won 27 games in 2006

March 16, 2007
65 vs Portland
Also had 7 rebs, 3 asts and 3 stls
Portland won 32 games in 2007

December 20, 2005
62 vs Dallas
Also had 8 rebs, 0 asts, 3 stls
Dallas won 60 games in 2006
Playoff team

March 22, 2007
60 vs Memphis
Also had 5 rebs and 4 asts
Memphis won 22 games in 2007

February 2, 2009
61 vs New York
Also had 0 rebs, 3 asts and 1 blk
New York is 21-26 so far this season

[gotbacon23]

Tale of the tape.

Michael Jordan

April 20, 1986
63 vs Boston
Also had 5 rebs and 6 asts
Boston won 59 games in 86
Defending champions
** Happened in the playoffs

March 4, 1987
61 vs Detroit
He also had 7 rebs, 3 asts, 3 stls and 3 blks
Detroit won 52 games in 87
Playoff team

April 16, 1987
61 vs Atlanta
Also had 10 rebs, 1 ast, 4 stls and 1 blk
Atlanta won 57 games in 87
Playoff team

March 28, 1990
69 vs Cleveland
Also had 18 rebs, 6 asts, 4 stls and 1 blk
Cleveland won 42 games in 90
Playoff team

January 16, 1993
64 vs Orlando
Also had 6 rebs, 1 ast and 5 stls
Orlando won 41 games in 1993

Kobe Bryant

January 22, 2006
81 vs Toronto
Also had 6 rebs, 2 asts, 3 stls and 1 blk
Toronto won 27 games in 2006

March 16, 2007
65 vs Portland
Also had 7 rebs, 3 asts and 3 stls
Portland won 32 games in 2007

December 20, 2005
62 vs Dallas
Also had 8 rebs, 0 asts, 3 stls
Dallas won 60 games in 2006
Playoff team

March 22, 2007
60 vs Memphis
Also had 5 rebs and 4 asts
Memphis won 22 games in 2007

February 2, 2009
61 vs New York
Also had 0 rebs, 3 asts and 1 blk
New York is 21-26 so far this season

the celtics team that MJ scored 63 points on actually won 67 games in that season and they were not the defending champs, but rather won the championship in that same playoffs. the '86 celtics, which MJ abused, is considered by some to be the GOAT.

[Da_Realist]

the celtics team that MJ scored 63 points on actually won 67 games in that season and they were not the defending champs, but rather won the championship in that same playoffs.

You're right. Repped for correcting me.

[KenneBell]

Tale of the tape.

Michael Jordan

April 20, 1986
63 vs Boston
Also had 5 rebs and 6 asts
Boston won 59 games in 86
Defending champions
** Happened in the playoffs

March 4, 1987
61 vs Detroit
He also had 7 rebs, 3 asts, 3 stls and 3 blks
Detroit won 52 games in 87
Playoff team

April 16, 1987
61 vs Atlanta
Also had 10 rebs, 1 ast, 4 stls and 1 blk
Atlanta won 57 games in 87
Playoff team

March 28, 1990
69 vs Cleveland
Also had 18 rebs, 6 asts, 4 stls and 1 blk
Cleveland won 42 games in 90
Playoff team

January 16, 1993
64 vs Orlando
Also had 6 rebs, 1 ast and 5 stls
Orlando won 41 games in 1993

Kobe Bryant

January 22, 2006
81 vs Toronto
Also had 6 rebs, 2 asts, 3 stls and 1 blk
Toronto won 27 games in 2006

March 16, 2007
65 vs Portland
Also had 7 rebs, 3 asts and 3 stls
Portland won 32 games in 2007

December 20, 2005
62 vs Dallas
Also had 8 rebs, 0 asts, 3 stls
Dallas won 60 games in 2006
Playoff team

March 22, 2007
60 vs Memphis
Also had 5 rebs and 4 asts
Memphis won 22 games in 2007

February 2, 2009
61 vs New York
Also had 0 rebs, 3 asts and 1 blk
New York is 21-26 so far this season

You've completely made Kobe's games irrelevant. They shouldn't even count. Nothing compares to Jordan's games!!! He's the greatest at everything basketball-related of all time!!! Da Realist FTW! I hope this spreads across the sports world and makes Kobe rethink why he's even touched a ball.

[Da_Realist]

You've completely made Kobe's games irrelevant. They shouldn't even count. Nothing compares to Jordan's games!!! He's the greatest at everything basketball-related of all time!!! Da Realist FTW! I hope this spreads across the sports world and makes Kobe rethink why he's even touched a ball.

No. That's not true. He did have one great 60 point game against a playoff team. Can't forget that