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04-09-2009, 01:31 PM
#196
Re: Is the West as dominant as people imply?
Originally Posted by DukeDelonte13
so when teams from the east win more against teams against the west its a weak argument that the east is stronger
You're absolutely right. Cleveland is in the Eastern Conference and they have the toughest road to the championship. The West pales in comparison to how good the East is. If the Cavs make it to the Finals, they are the best team ever. Is that what you want to hear?
The West 1-8 is better than the East 1-8. The East has 3 of the top 4 teams, but when you can insert Phoenix into the Eastern Conference and have them as a fifth seed that gives you a good indication which conference is better.
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04-09-2009, 01:40 PM
#197
Playground Legend
Re: Is the West as dominant as people imply?
Originally Posted by DukeDelonte13
so when teams from the east win more against teams against the west its a weak argument that the east is stronger
Allstar24 doesnt like looking at the other facts in the argument, just his own side. IMHO it was said that the East has a lot of decent teams and the top 3 teams; the west has a more solid top 8 overall but the rest of the conference is much worse than the rest of the easts.
It seems that the better WEST teams get their Ws mostly from the west and the marginal WEST teams are losing a good amount to both the east and the west, so in short the west all together is struggling to beat EAST teams, but the WEST will have more games in the WEST, so the better teams will make the worse teams look even worse. Hence this concludes why there are solid records like: Lakers, Blazers, Rockets, Nuggets. But there are horrible teams like clippers, warriors, kings.
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04-09-2009, 01:41 PM
#198
Dr. Chim Richalds
Re: Is the West as dominant as people imply?
The East has 3 good teams, the West has 9 good teams. However, of the top 3 teams in the NBA, 2 are in the East, and Orlando is pretty damn solid too. Also, the West has 5 teams that are worse than any team in the East (which ironically means that every year several lottery picks go to the West to languish on perennially terrible teams, instead of helping to put Eastern teams over the top, ie. D-Will and CP3 going West, Oden and Durant both going West).
Overall the West is still better though. There are a lot of mediocre to bad teams in the Eastern playoff hunt.
Last edited by A.M.G.; 04-09-2009 at 01:44 PM.
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04-09-2009, 01:46 PM
#199
Very good NBA starter
Re: Is the West as dominant as people imply?
Originally Posted by LA_Showtime
You're absolutely right. Cleveland is in the Eastern Conference and they have the toughest road to the championship. The West pales in comparison to how good the East is. If the Cavs make it to the Finals, they are the best team ever. Is that what you want to hear?
The West 1-8 is better than the East 1-8. The East has 3 of the top 4 teams, but when you can insert Phoenix into the Eastern Conference and have them as a fifth seed that gives you a good indication which conference is better.
Maybe there seems to be a miscommunication. If you are just talking about record, yeah the suns would be fifth. But the suns loose more when they play against the east, like most western teams do, hence the disparity in inter-conference play. So if for some reason, the suns moved to milwaukee, they would not have the record that they would of had if they were in the west. See what i'm saying?
The Lakers are the only elite team in the west. Spurs, Jazz, Rockets, Nuggs, aren't on the same level. Im not saying these teams suck by any means but the Hawks, Heat, Pistons, 76rs aren't really that far from them at all.
And i never said anything that would imply im somehow asking for you to acknowledge anything about the cavs. If you ask me, only homers don't understand what it means when one conference wins more against the other.
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04-09-2009, 02:10 PM
#200
Playground Legend
Re: Is the West as dominant as people imply?
Originally Posted by DukeDelonte13
Maybe there seems to be a miscommunication. If you are just talking about record, yeah the suns would be fifth. But the suns loose more when they play against the east, like most western teams do, hence the disparity in inter-conference play. So if for some reason, the suns moved to milwaukee, they would not have the record that they would of had if they were in the west. See what i'm saying?
The Lakers are the only elite team in the west. Spurs, Jazz, Rockets, Nuggs, aren't on the same level. Im not saying these teams suck by any means but the Hawks, Heat, Pistons, 76rs aren't really that far from them at all.
And i never said anything that would imply im somehow asking for you to acknowledge anything about the cavs. If you ask me, only homers don't understand what it means when one conference wins more against the other.
This makes sense, however predictions like this are flawed because if the suns played more games vs the east, then they would have more familiarity with east players and their struggles with the east might not be so. IF the suns were 0-2 vs the Sixers this year, and they were to play 2 more games, the suns may be better prepared for the sixers in games 3n4 resulting in 2-2 instead of 0-2. OR the sixers could make them look worse. But just because a team loses 2 games to another team over the course of 1 year does not mean they cannot get even. Think of it as playing 1 on 1 with your friend. Sure he's better than you and you can't seem to beat him. But if you play him more and more you will start to figure him out, and if you're any good at all you will take away his strengths and exploit his weaknesses.
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04-09-2009, 03:27 PM
#201
GiveItToBurrito
Fan in the Stands (unregistered)
Re: Is the West as dominant as people imply?
The East is a lot more balanced, with only one team (the Wizards) being truly horrible and a doormat night in and night out (even though that'll change next year once Arenas and Haywood are back and healthy), as well as three truly elite teams that could easily win the title this year. The West has a lot more paper tigers like New Orleans and Dallas who can win 50+ games but have no real shot at a title and only an outside shot at the finals, while they also have four or five atrocious teams like the Kings and Clippers who fans forget about because, really, would you even want to remember that the Clippers exist?
Overall, the East is better because they have three teams that could win a championship and the West only has one, and because everyone in the East except Washington is respectable if not great. The fifth seed out West could probably beat the fifth seed in the East, but who cares since neither will make it past the second round.
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04-09-2009, 03:40 PM
#202
Playground Legend
Re: Is the West as dominant as people imply?
[QUOTE=GiveItToBurrito]The East is a lot more balanced, with only one team (the Wizards) being truly horrible and a doormat night in and night out (even though that'll change next year once Arenas and Haywood are back and healthy), as well as three truly elite teams that could easily win the title this year. The West has a lot more paper tigers like New Orleans and Dallas who can win 50+ games but have no real shot at a title and only an outside shot at the finals, while they also have four or five atrocious teams like the Kings and Clippers who fans forget about because, really, would you even want to remember that the Clippers exist?
Overall, the East is better because they have three teams that could win a championship and the West only has one, and because everyone in the East except Washington is respectable if not great. The fifth seed out West could probably beat the fifth seed in the East, but who cares since neither will make it past the second round.[/QUOTE]
For the most part yeah, who cares. But I will be singing a different tune if one of those teams are the reason the Cavs arent #1 overall in the League
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04-09-2009, 04:06 PM
#203
Decent college freshman
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