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Very good NBA starter
The downside of an "efficient" superstar
A guy like LeBron will usually make the "right" basketball play instead of forcing anything but that's not always the winning play.
For example, look at Dirk last night. Dude just kept shooting and trusting his jumper. Even if the Mavs lost, he wasn't gonna leave any room for regret even if it meant taking all the blame. I bet Heat fans would be able to accept this loss more if Bron had done the same in the last 3 games
I know Bron plays with Wade and Bosh but 15 shots seems low for an elimination game IMO.
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College superstar
Re: The downside of an "efficient" superstar
Originally Posted by konex
A guy like LeBron will usually make the "right" basketball play instead of forcing anything but that's not always the winning play.
For example, look at Dirk last night. Dude just kept shooting and trusting his jumper. Even if the Mavs lost, he wasn't gonna leave any room for regret even if it meant taking all the blame. I bet Heat fans would be able to accept this loss more if Bron had done the same in the last 3 games
I know Bron plays with Wade and Bosh but 15 shots seems low for an elimination game IMO.
It wasn't that Lebron wasn't taking shots that annoyed heat fans it's that he wasn't attacking... Throwing up bad percentage shots wouldn't have been a better idea, attacking the basket more would have. Dirk wasn't forcing shots he shot shots he usually makes, but didn't make them was all.
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Very good NBA starter
Re: The downside of an "efficient" superstar
When you are being zoned up, the only attacking you can do is take the jumper they are giving you. LeBron can hit those shots
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HellMaster
Re: The downside of an "efficient" superstar
Originally Posted by konex
For example, look at Dirk last night. Dude just kept shooting and trusting his jumper. Even if the Mavs lost, he wasn't gonna leave any room for regret even if it meant taking all the blame. .
Uh, the fact that his teammates played out of their minds and kept them in the game has more to do with that than anything else..
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Re: The downside of an "efficient" superstar
Been criticising this of Lebron for 3 years. He'd rather lose than have a low FG%
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Re: The downside of an "efficient" superstar
Originally Posted by konex
When you are being zoned up, the only attacking you can do is take the jumper they are giving you. LeBron can hit those shots
wrong, LeBron could have cut the seams, been active on the offensive boards, gone into the high post, ran the baseline, posted up...
instead he just floated around the three point line waiting for the ball. not all the above plays break a zone, but activity does. good teams are active against zones, superstar collectif was just flat footed.
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Re: The downside of an "efficient" superstar
The GOAT poster has spoken
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National High School Star
Re: The downside of an "efficient" superstar
It is pretty amazing that neither Wade nor Bron had a dunk tonight. Just saying...they definitely have this nonsense offensive system. Watching Bron though I think it has to be him and not the coaching. This is twice now, with two completely different coaches this has happened. He can only be good when he can be ball dominant and use pick and rolls. He absolutely sucks when he is on the low block. He has no idea how to use his size to be a beast down low. Marion was beating when Wade tried to guard him with his little hooks etc. Bron had Kidd, hell even Barea D him up in the post no problem. Was a sad state of affairs.
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Local High School Star
Re: The downside of an "efficient" superstar
Completely retarded OP, which sadly represents the opinion of many people apparently. Dirk is efficient, made the right plays (most of the time), it just wasn't falling. Jacking up bad shots a la Kobe Bryant is bad for your team.
The problem with Lebron, as others have said, is not that he wanted to be efficient but that he was passive.
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Re: The downside of an "efficient" superstar
Sorry stat-haters, Dirk is one of the most efficient superstars in the league year after year so it's not really a route you can take
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Re: The downside of an "efficient" superstar
Originally Posted by JtotheIzzo
wrong, LeBron could have cut the seams, been active on the offensive boards, gone into the high post, ran the baseline, posted up...
instead he just floated around the three point line waiting for the ball. not all the above plays break a zone, but activity does. good teams are active against zones, superstar collectif was just flat footed.
Problem is, Lebron has none of that in his game. Wade barely does either, but he had the balls on the team this series and at least was aggressive with the ball. If LBJ was aggressive, maybe we'd be noting Wade's shortcomings in these areas.
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How does my Dirk taste
Re: The downside of an "efficient" superstar
Thanks for the curse, OP.
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phal5
Re: The downside of an "efficient" superstar
Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
Problem is, Lebron has none of that in his game. Wade barely does either, but he had the balls on the team this series and at least was aggressive with the ball. If LBJ was aggressive, maybe we'd be noting Wade's shortcomings in these areas.
Exactly. When the hell has LeBron worked in the high post and come out looking effective?
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You hear that?
Re: The downside of an "efficient" superstar
Originally Posted by yobore
Sorry stat-haters, Dirk is one of the most efficient superstars in the league year after year so it's not really a route you can take
Dirk shot 41% for the series...
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NBA sixth man of the year
Re: The downside of an "efficient" superstar
Originally Posted by konex
A guy like LeBron will usually make the "right" basketball play
Except LeBron wasn't doing that at all this series. He was passing up shots, not making the "right" play. Big difference between playing smart and playing passive.
LeBron has managed to be efficient at high volume his entire career, so there's really no excuse for his approach in this series. And I'm glad this is what the majority of articles are focusing on today too - his unexplained passiveness in the Finals after NEVER playing like that in his career.
LeBron's entire series is the most bizarre thing I have EVER seen from an athlete. It's one thing to have 1 weird game like he did last season, quite another to do it for an entire series. People say he was "scared", but why? It's not like the BIG stage has ever prevented from actually being aggressive offensively. And Boston and Chicago in these playoffs were easily scarier than Dallas was for much of the Finals. Had LeBron been his normal self, Miami likely would've swept them or be done in 5.
Last edited by Indian guy; 06-13-2011 at 02:13 PM.
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