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    Default Re: Barkley: If Kobe doesn't win now, he never will...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mdog1
    I have and will maintain the Bosh is going to be a Cavalier next season. It is the surrounding circumstances that they will have to trade him no matter what.
    Cut the crap, Cavs have NOTHING to give the Raptors that they would even consider. Bosh is the Raptors franchise...they won't trade him unless they get quailty back.

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    Default Re: Barkley: If Kobe doesn't win now, he never will...

    They will at least got something out of him rather than the nothing they would lose for him when he leaves. Don't be niave he is as good as gone.

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    Default Re: Barkley: If Kobe doesn't win now, he never will...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mdog1
    They will at least got something out of him rather than the nothing they would lose for him when he leaves. Don't be niave he is as good as gone.
    IF they trade him, they will get some quality in return.
    cavs dont have enuf...esp compared to some other teams.

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    Default Re: Barkley: If Kobe doesn't win now, he never will...

    Quote Originally Posted by bleedinpurpleTwo
    IF they trade him, they will get some quality in return.
    cavs dont have enuf...esp compared to some other teams.
    What teams are going to realistically be in the market to get Bosh. Notice I said realistically so don't be throwing out GSW or Sactown.

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    Default Re: Barkley: If Kobe doesn't win now, he never will...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mdog1
    What teams are going to realistically be in the market to get Bosh. Notice I said realistically so don't be throwing out GSW or Sactown.
    what constitutes "realistically"?
    anyone with enuf assets could be interested.
    anyone from the hawks, to the clipps, to the bulls, to yes gsw (monte ellis is disgruntled).

    that said, i just dont see toronto trading their franchise player.

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    Default Re: Barkley: If Kobe doesn't win now, he never will...

    Quote Originally Posted by bleedinpurpleTwo
    what constitutes "realistically"?
    anyone with enuf assets could be interested.
    anyone from the hawks, to the clipps, to the bulls, to yes gsw (monte ellis is disgruntled).

    that said, i just dont see toronto trading their franchise player.
    Realistically as in teams that would actually trade for him. I mean teams that A) are actually either on the cusp of contending and think he will put them into the "contender" category, B) actually need a PF on their team (look hard there isn't that many), and C) are boarderline playoff teams and think that Bosh can get them there.

    IMO there is maybe 4 or 5 teams that would even put together a package, and two of them might not based on finances or that he may be a "rental".

    Bulls- Miller, Noah, Thomas
    Cavs - Wallace, JJ, AV, DJ3
    Portland - LMA, Outlaw
    NOH - West

    I mean realistically if you look at the "contenders" and playoff teams rosters most of them have either a very capable PF on their team or they have a lack of things to trade. The Cavs are the only contending team that doesn't have a good PF.

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    Default Re: Barkley: If Kobe doesn't win now, he never will...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mdog1
    Realistically as in teams that would actually trade for him. I mean teams that A) are actually either on the cusp of contending and think he will put them into the "contender" category, B) actually need a PF on their team (look hard there isn't that many), and C) are boarderline playoff teams and think that Bosh can get them there.

    IMO there is maybe 4 or 5 teams that would even put together a package, and two of them might not based on finances or that he may be a "rental".

    Bulls- Miller, Noah, Thomas
    Cavs - Wallace, JJ, AV, DJ3
    Portland - LMA, Outlaw
    NOH - West

    I mean realistically if you look at the "contenders" and playoff teams rosters most of them have either a very capable PF on their team or they have a lack of things to trade. The Cavs are the only contending team that doesn't have a good PF.
    well, lots of teams have a decent pf, but an upgrade is very valuable.
    clipps have zach, but...
    hawks have josh smith, but he is undersized and inconsistent.
    gsw needs legit post player.
    knicks could use him and he would love to be in that city.
    i could go on and on.

    he isnt going anywhere unless he demands a trade.

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    Default Re: Barkley: If Kobe doesn't win now, he never will...

    mdog is always nice but it rings around his biased opinions so it doesn't hold much

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    Default Re: Barkley: If Kobe doesn't win now, he never will...

    Quote Originally Posted by bleedinpurpleTwo
    well, lots of teams have a decent pf, but an upgrade is very valuable.
    clipps have zach, but...
    hawks have josh smith, but he is undersized and inconsistent.
    gsw needs legit post player.
    knicks could use him and he would love to be in that city.
    i could go on and on.

    he isnt going anywhere unless he demands a trade.
    Actually you are wrong on that. Trust me I live near Toronto so I have a much better handle on the situation than you do. I was watching a Raps show last night and they were discussing trading him, and they said that BC would not wait if he does not sign an extension. They are most likely going to trade him to whom is not 100%, but I can guarantee the Cavs will be all over it.

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    Default Re: Barkley: If Kobe doesn't win now, he never will...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mdog1
    Actually you are wrong on that. Trust me I live near Toronto so I have a much better handle on the situation than you do. I was watching a Raps show last night and they were discussing trading him, and they said that BC would not wait if he does not sign an extension. They are most likely going to trade him to whom is not 100%, but I can guarantee the Cavs will be all over it.
    did they say WHY they would trade him? he has always said he is happy there

    ps. geographical proximity does not necessarily give anyone a "much better handle"

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    Default Re: Barkley: If Kobe doesn't win now, he never will...

    Quote Originally Posted by bleedinpurpleTwo
    did they say WHY they would trade him? he has always said he is happy there
    They said that BC didn't want to risk losing him for nothing and that if he didn't give a great indication or sign an extension (which they kept saying he wouldn't). He (person on show) read a quote from Bosh and I can't exactly remember it, but it was something like "I don't have any intension right now of playing any where else, but if BC wants the extension I am not sure if I can give it to him so I completely understand if he trades me".

    Edit: Well I meant that I knew more about the Raps side then most of the American posters on this site.

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