Does anyone actually have Shaq ahead of Duncan all time?

[clutchinho]

Lets talk about the best big man of this generation, and the general consensus is always that it's a toss up between Duncan and Shaq

But then you sit down and think it over, and there's no argument for Shaq being ahead of Duncan all-time.

-Duncan's got more titles
-Duncan's got more individual awards
-Duncan's got the longevity, he's still relevant in his 16th season while Shaq was a walking corpse at that stage of his career.
-Duncan wasn't ever a liability in the 4th quarter
-Duncan never got swept 5 times in 6 years in his prime like Shaq did.
-Intangibles aren't even comparable, Duncan's one of the best teammates in the league and a rock for his franchise.

Shaq was the more dominant scorer at his best,and for a 2-3 year stretch in the early 2000's you would have taken him in front of Duncan if you wanted to win a title.

But apart from that, it's not even close.

[andremiller07]

OF course shaq has more rings bruh

They both got 4?

[longtime lurker]

Lets talk about the best big man of this generation, and the general consensus is always that it's a toss up between Duncan and Shaq

But then you sit down and think it over, and there's no argument for Shaq being ahead of Duncan all-time.

-Duncan's got more titles
-Duncan's got more individual awards
-Duncan's got the longevity, he's still relevant in his 16th season while Shaq was a walking corpse at that stage of his career.
-Duncan wasn't ever a liability in the 4th quarter
-Duncan never got swept 5 times in 6 years in his prime like Shaq did.
-Intangibles aren't even comparable, Duncan's one of the best teammates in the league and a rock for his franchise.

Shaq was the more dominant scorer at his best,and for a 2-3 year stretch in the early 2000's you would have taken him in front of Duncan if you wanted to win a title.

But apart from that, it's not even close.

The both have the same amount of titles. Duncan has one more MVP and we all know MVP voting is bullshit. Duncan has never 3 peated, Shaq had. Shaq has also been to the finals more times than Duncan. Really it's a toss up between the two depending on personal preference.

[dh144498]

5 for shaq

[andremiller07]

5 for shaq

x3 with the Lakers x1 with the Heat = 4?

[Dragonyeuw]

-Duncan's got more titles
-Duncan's got more individual awards
-Duncan's got the longevity, he's still relevant in his 16th season while Shaq was a walking corpse at that stage of his career.
-Duncan wasn't ever a liability in the 4th quarter

- They both have 4

- Steve Nash has more MVPs that Shaq. What does that say?

-Shaq was a dominant force from 1992-2006. People act like his stretch of dominance was only in the 2000's. He was a dominant force from day one. Duncan has also had a few 'lean years' by his standards( injuries most likely) but has rebounded the past 2 years. But overall, Shaq's longevity is underrated, especially taking into account that his work ethic wasn't stellar.

-Maybe, but Duncan wasn't exactly a stellar free-throw shooter either. Both of them relied on perimeter players (Kobe, Parker,Ginobli) to make late-game clutch baskets and free throws.

[keep-itreal]

let's put it like this. if you're a center, who do you think would be more difficult to guard, prime shaq or prime duncan?

No doubt it is Shaq

[clutchinho]

- They both have 4

- Steve Nash has more MVPs that Shaq. What does that say?

-Shaq was a dominant force from 1992-2006. People act like his stretch of dominance was only in the 2000's. He was a dominant force from day one. Duncan has also had a few 'lean years' by his standards( injuries most likely) but has rebounded the past 2 years. But overall, Shaq's longevity is underrated, especially taking into account that his work ethic wasn't stellar.

-Maybe, but Duncan wasn't exactly a stellar free-throw shooter either. Both of them relied on perimeter players (Kobe, Parker,Ginobli) to make late-game clutch baskets and free throws.

1. Check Shaq's support he had on those titles, compared with Duncan's, Shaq has almost always had the undisputed best guard in the game in his title seasons.

2. More MVPs, More All D teams, more DPOYS, more All NBA teams

3. Dominant force from 92-06 , what sort of dominant force gets swept 5 times in 6 seasons with the amount of help he had? Shaq was dominant in 2000-2002, get it right



If anything, Shaq has never really been able to prove he can get past Duncan in his prime. His first title season(99-00) came in a season where Duncan missed the playoffs as the defending champs. and the following 2 title years, it was Kobe's play that the Spurs had no answer for.

[kobeef24]

God the people in this thread are retarded. They both have 4 rings and 3 finals mvps. I have Duncan ahead of Shaq all time due to individual awards and longevity, but Shaq is ahead of Duncan in terms of peak play. It's really a toss up.

[clutchinho]

let's put it like this. if you're a center, who do you think would be more difficult to guard, prime shaq or prime duncan?

No doubt it is Shaq

right..... so that's why Shaq got swept 5 times in 6 years in his prime, cause he's unguardable.... so unguardable he couldnt even win one game.


Greg Ostertag got inside prime Shaq's head and sent him home with broomsticks

Have you only started watching basketball since Lebron went to the Heat? do you really believe everything Shaq tells you about himself on TNT

[dh144498]

right..... so that's why Shaq got swept 5 times in 6 years in his prime, cause he's unguardable.... so unguardable he couldnt even win one game.


Greg Ostertag got inside prime Shaq's head and sent him home with broomsticks

Have you only started watching basketball since Lebron went to the Heat? do you really believe everything Shaq tells you about himself on TNT

[Burgz V2]

5 for shaq

[KobesFinger]

1. Check Shaq's support he had on those titles, compared with Duncan's, Shaq has almost always had the undisputed best guard in the game in his title seasons.

2. More MVPs, More All D teams, more DPOYS, more All NBA teams

3. Dominant force from 92-06 , what sort of dominant force gets swept 5 times in 6 seasons with the amount of help he had? Shaq was dominant in 2000-2002, get it right



If anything, Shaq has never really been able to prove he can get past Duncan in his prime. His first title season(99-00) came in a season where Duncan missed the playoffs as the defending champs. and the following 2 title years, it was Kobe's play that the Spurs had no answer for.

Neither of them have a DPOY. Shaq was a dominant force, individual players don't get swept

[Twiens]

Prime - Shaq easily
Longetivity- Timmy

[NumberSix]

I do.