Artest: Cleveland Is 'Nothing' Without LeBron

[sixer6ad]

Here is some more abstract belief:

The players who have played with LBJ for a lengthy time period have learned to win through him. They now understand all of the little things that must be done that teams like the Knicks, Bulls, Bucks, etc. don't. The Cavs, without Lebron, would still challenge teams at home but be very challenged as a road team. I do think we would see LBJ's positive impact on a LBJ-less team for possibly a season. After that, the real work would begin.

[Roundball_Rock]

What a waste of time and energy. This may be the biggest "if" forum in the history of ISH.

34-11
Best Record in the League
Lebron starts and plays a lot
Has played in Cleveland his entire career
All of this speculation can wait until July

If my aunt had....she'd be my uncle. Cracks me up that people would follow the lead of - yes, that's right - Ron Artest. Drink the kool-aid of - yes, that's right - Ron Artest.

Not really. If he gets injured for several games we could get an idea, like when they went 0-8 without him in 2008 (45-29 with him).

I think they'd be about a game behind Milwaukee.

I can see that, although I think NY would be better too.

[sixer6ad]

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wir...ithout_lebron/

Honestly, after seeing the Mavs/Knicks score today, I texted a friend that if LBJ wants to leave what he has here for that mess there, then we cannot do a thing about it. If he chooses to leave, he will never have a relationship with a fan base the way he does in Cleveland; it would be impossible. Let's see....best record in the league vs. lose by 50 at home against a team without two starters.

[sixer6ad]

Not really. If he gets injured for several games we could get an idea, like when they went 0-8 without him in 2008 (45-29 with him).



I can see that, although I think NY would be better too.

I don't remember the 0-8.

[elinss86]

yep, thats why to me no question if lebron or kobe is better. kobes best player is gasol. brons got mo. lol. switch kobe and lebron and bron mite win 70+ wit hthe lakers. put kobe on cavs i doubt they win more than 45

[Bigsmoke]

Lebron has great role players. People have to understand that just having all the offensive talents doesnt mean your the greatest and having a bunch of no names mean you're the worst. Lebron has great rebounders, defenders, outside shooter, veterans, and an All Star in Mo.

[D.J.]

Good ol' Ron. In Cleveland's defense, they do play good team defense. That aspect would win them quite a few games. They're obviously not winning 60 games without LeBron, but they're not at the bottom either. Even though they were 0-8 without LeBron, they didn't have to change the way they play or prepare for a change because they knew LeBron was coming back. If they had to play the rest of the year without LeBron, they would have to change the way they play and pick up another player or two.

[Rafael Delaget]

Ron-Ron's new Adidas commercial:

"Impossible is nothing. Well not that it's nothing, it's still a word with like 8 letters or whatever. But yeah, it's nothing."

[Wuxia]

[QUOTE=Rafael Delaget

[ILLsmak]

Exactly, everyone in the NBA has talent... it's about how they fit. I think Cle without LeBron would not lose to any team after Miami on that list. Real talk. Maybe once or twice but not in a season/playoff series.

But it's all hypothetical. Now, we can all agree they wouldn't be a championship contender without him.

-Smak

[DuMa]

this has been apparent for 7 years now. welcome to the NBA ron. the sky is also blue

[blood yes]

lmfao at all these idiots thinking the cavaliers would have won 40+games without lebron

[TheBigVeto]

If the Cavs don't flagrant foul this guy and end his career I'd be disappointed.

[alleykat]

he said "they're still human beings".....

ice cold

[Human Error]

Lol at lots of idiots who said that the Cavs would still be a good team without Lebron. It always feels good to expose idiots.